Everything and in time for Labor Day

Victor Smith · Post by **Victor Smith** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:58 pm

Icebladeraptor9 · Post by **Icebladeraptor9** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:59 pm

Holy crap you have a lot of time on you hands

fivedragons · Post by **fivedragons** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:01 pm

You rock. Thanks.

This gets my vote for the best post ever.

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:49 pm

Thanks Victor that should keep us busy for some time!

Rising Star · Post by **Rising Star** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:04 am

With all due respect, what the *%$#?

I love to engage in entertaining dialectict but what the hell is this? Looks like an internet advertisement!

John

CANDANeh · Post by **CANDANeh** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:11 am

Well...Now that is enough to keep me up until sunrise

Very enjoyable

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:11 am

Thanks Victor

!!!

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:14 am

John

Victor Smith is an esteemed practitioner of Isshinryu Karate, and a regular contributor to these forums. Even if he was promoting something, I'd read it. He's been delivering the most thoughtful posts for years. One good example of the kind of dialogue he's started was a lengthy discussion of various Seisan kata found in myriad martial arts systems.

This obviously took a lot of work, and quite frankly is of value to me and others who frequent the forums.

Thanks, Victor!

- Bill

Victor Smith · Post by **Victor Smith** » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:22 am

Hi Bill,

I've done my best to try and understand what the arts in total represent, and over the years have collected quite a bit, mainly from friends around the world who joined in the quest.

About a month ago when I was on vacation I stumbled onto how much material was really out there, on sites like Google Video, YahooGroup.com as well as various sites that many have built over the years to share the shape of forms and training.

What I found through various systematic research was that there's an incalculable amount of material just sitting there.

I've only touched a fraction of it, and mostly at what really interests me.

I have no interest in any particular site, nor any one system, as you see I've tried to grasp as much as I could of the more traditional sharings.

But everything there each of you could have done the same, and made your own choices.

None of these video's share any secrets. None of them share the layers upon layers of work and training to get to that particular point. But many of them share the artistry and skill of the performer.

There is much that isn't there, but what is there is unreal.

Instead of reading about someting, most of the time now you can see, and make more informed decisions about what others do.

And by what you don't see, perhaps the real 'secrets' remain locked.

But somehow there may be enough to keep us focused that there's not one answer, or one good way, but many choices that innumberable instructors have made in many different lands, and still see skill can rise and grow.

I don't know how many times I've found my minor research is riding the wavefront of where things could be.

In this one, you have a world of information at your fingertips, and you can get to it almost instantly.

I focus on what interests me, and now I have to figure out how to do everything I've seen. Probably will keep me busy for a minute or two. <GRIN>

And Bill, you'll notice I have more than a few Seisan kata in this list... still trying to grasp seisan-ness more fully.

Victor Smith · Post by **Victor Smith** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:08 pm

I continue to search out the explosion of martial video being posted and offer some more movies for all to enjoy.

I find being able to view today, what in years ago we only heard in whispers, is fascinating. We can discard the 'secrets' and begin to look more closely at what was never whispered, the more important karate.

IMO,

Victor Smith

The first section shows several Kyan origin kata allowing comparion between the Seibukan version and Isshinryu's variations.

Seibukan Wanshu Kata - Shimabukuro Zenpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zo1emnRwN0
Isshinryu Wansu Kata - Shimabuku Tatsuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8WIiVSHd_o

Zempo Shimabukuro - Kushanku (sukunahayashi shorin ryu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NlyLiq ... ed&search=
Isshinryu Kusanku Kata - Shimabuku Tatsuo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWKyeXSR ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bU5bHYp ... ed&search=

Seibukan Seisan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFSnV7s_ ... ed&search=
Isshinryu Seisan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG-uX6dsBzg

-- Older version of Chinto to compare (not in the same lineage, still interesting)

Hohan Soken Chinto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzWNg1xUtZQ
Tatsuo Simabuku Chinto Isshin ryu founder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p45ziUH4 ... ed&search=

Another of Kyan's students, Nagamine Shoshin

Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu Karate featuring the late Shoshiun Nagamine one of leaders of the styule who carried the torch for many years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3jZ1ulVF94

Shoshin Nagamine 10th Dan Matsubayashi Shorin Ryu Karate. Watch him both as a young man and in his later years as he performs a traditional Okinawan dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C7nXRv0 ... ed&search=

-- Another Shorin Ryu Tradition

Shorin Ryu karate and Kobudo Master Ota
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyBmYG8t ... ed&search=

-- Other Older Kata versions --

Nishime - Kushanku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzRmm0r_ ... ed&search=

Kusanku Dai - Shugoro Nakazato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znNZKMaB ... ed&search=

Okinawan Island (Hohen Soken at the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WqWz20z ... ed&search=

Passai (matsumura seito - Soken lineagee)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJyhEGf ... ed&search=

-- another of my friends lineage

Shinpo Matayoshi - Drunken Kata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDG_mMXP ... ed&search=
Shinpo Matayoshi drunken school kata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWs0yNOl ... ed&search=
Shinpo Matayoshi - monkey kata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDG_mMXPQRY
Matayoshi Kobudo featuring Shinpo Matayoshi performing many rare
open hand and kobudo katas. Shot in Okinawa Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqrk8yeIZ-E
Bo vs Timbei/Rochin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSC6URHd ... ed&search=

-- Eku Kata --

Okinawan Ecko Bo(Oar) Performed at a NBL Torunament in Poughkipsee NY Tournament
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBP38JRjSxQ

Kote Kitae karate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3PNSFqC ... ed&search=

Tohyama Seiko Sensei Uechi Ryu 10º Dan kata Sanseiryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdVd4sYc ... ed&search=

Nipaipo Shito Ryu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8rAt5hK ... ed&search=

1997 World Karate Championships
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC32o6HS ... ed&search=

Demonstrations by Chinen Sensei, Morio Higaonna
Sensei, Fumio Demura Sensei, and rare footage of
Hironori Ohstuka, founder of Wado Ryu.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHz5hK_aOUg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ijFbF5SYpI
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDnfc4aKv1M
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpJOkj8dzA4
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxxYzrh0QE
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZGes4pHoKo

a 2 part 70's era view of Higaonna doing the Goju
Ryu kaishu kata:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGBdkOYQGoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0V8gdCWt4

-- And is this where it's going? --

karate bo extreme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxFEsLtdNfs

Battle of Atlanta 2003 Extreme Weapons bo kata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFilmk3 ... ed&search=

-- Drunken (perhaps this is a result of watching too many videos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B4-qNMGCsM

Rising Star · Post by **Rising Star** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:58 pm

Victor and Bill:

My apologies. I re-read my previous post and I must have been possessed that day.

Indeed, it is clear that lots of effort went into this and there is a heck of a lot of interesting and valualble info.

Don't know what was happening the day I posted but I deeply hope that my sincerest apologies are accepted.

Thank you.
John

Everything and in time for Labor Day

Everything and in time for Labor Day

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