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going on in IUKF. Tune in, tap in, get on the floor, boogie standing up or down, whack the sticks, flick the steel. Man... there's a lot going on. Image

I wish I was younger 'cause I'm wiped. But, as the saying goes, better late than never...

Keep the ears perked and sieze the opportunities. They're there, if you want... It used to be some serious work and care to get extra training and exposure to something new. These days it's all around, within our own network. Just drop the ego and get out of your closeted dojo.

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P.S. Excuse me as I am just riding on endorphins. I'll chill and ache by morning. Image

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I feel the same way, still!

I get a real thrill out of working with new people on new material. There is so much out there and so many fantastic people practicing it I am in awe.

There is a huge upside to open-minded, ego-less, cross-training. None of our arts was formed in a vaccuum, they all took advantage of all the knowledge they could get. We should not arrest this process, we should encourage it. Leave the comfort zone, be a beginner as often as you can, learn to view your art from other angles and see what you have not previously seen.

My dojo-mates will hopefully gain from my recent exposure to Raffi Derderian. I hope to continue the cross-pollination. An added benefit is exposure to like-minded, quality people. Life is enriched.

Let's Play!

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David,
Totally agree, problem is you already know so much where are you putting it all?
Biggest problem for me is finding the time, training and teaching one art is tough enough. But now I do two arts and love escrima as well. Just got a balisong too, who's going to show me how to use that?
Help!
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Fred,

It's like Ted said, I get really energized training with good folks. I don't think too much about what I know or don't know. I just like to train and be happy. Image

Time is definitely a factor, especially for attending classes. For me, it's gotten a bit easier now that the kids are older. Still, don't want to be like absent from their lives. I get to classes in different stuff when I can. This obviously is not enough if you want to progress faster and get rank in a certain system/style. Not a goal for me so I am freer in that respect. What works with scheduling is to practice certain stuff that lends itself to solo practice whenever one can, e.g. bag work, kata, swinging the sticks and knife work against cutting dummies, etc.

However, working alone, only goes so far, so there is a need to work with partners to develop reflexes, distancing, tactics, etc. This is where I enjoy having an informal but committed training group of folks who roughly share the same goal (or lack of). We take whatever material and work on it for, say, 3 or 4 months and rotate to something else. We do drills, techniques, etc, but at the core of it, we play some freestyle because this is what we can't get training alone. Here, a group with members from different styles/systems is beneficial because it individuals bring perspectives and experiences that challenge and inform. This is often missing when everyone is from the same style. This can lead to "in-breeding" and predictability. Just my take on it.

Regarding the balisong, I think Raffi knows how to play it. You should check in with him. I also have two books by Jeff Imada that illustrate the beginning to advance manipulations. You're welcome to borrow them. JUST MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE TO TAPE THE LIVE EDGE. Or, buy a cheap bali, dull the edge and play with that. Bali has the advantage of being a pocketstick when closed and live blade when opened. For application, pick any FMA knife focused art and play those drills and freestyle. You know, of course, that Bali is illegal in most states. You get hit with a weapons charge just for carrying it (why I don't bother with it anymore even though it develops good dexterity.)

I recently reconnected with a FMA group that found a new training home in a health club in the Boston area on Tuesdays and another place on Sunday. I like this group/style because of its encompassing curriculum that spans empty hand to sticks to blade work (forward and reverse grip. Actually, one guy in this group can make the Bali sing. Image ) There is another FMA group that I used to work with that is more stick focused (at least in the workouts). This latter group also trains Tuesdays in the exercise room of my agency/community center. Both groups start training around 7:30 PM. If you're interested, let me know.

david

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David,
Always interested in FMA, I have sundays open, let me know about that group if you can. Also send me out your e-mail, I got some pics of you at the last regional I'd like to send you.
Mine is uechika@msn.com
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Hi david,
I had recently heard some people talking after a workout, referring to a Chinatown Dojo in downtown Boston, where Uechi Ryu is taught. The problem was that no one seems to know where its location is, or who its members are. I was hoping that you could give me some info on its whereabouts and how someone who wants to visit it, might be able to do so, since you are from the area? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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David,

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I recently reconnected with a FMA group that found a new training home in a health club in the Boston area on Tuesdays and another place on Sunday.
Is this the same guy who hails from Southeastern New Hampshire that has been teaching in East Boston for years?

If so, he's good, real good!!!

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LD88,

There're two informal groups I know of, neither accessible to casual visitors. Perhaps, there is another group I am not aware of?


Who are you training with currently?

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Except for very infrequent visits to Raf's dojo [once a year?], I haven't trained in FMA for maybe 8 or so years. A lot of the training "sticks," Image but a lot of it goes away. I trained in FMA in Albuquerque, then in Indianapolis. I continued self-training for a few years then taught what I knew in my Tennessee dojo. My current crop of students have interest, but not enough time.

I miss FMA training, I really do, but life's prorities have become a stronger magnet pulling me away from all MA activities except Uechi, David. Probably when I do get time, I'll be too old.

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The guy in East Boston though...

I found out about him through the grapevine and in 1995 went there about 6 times. My first book started earing aay at all my MA time and had to abort.

Just after going through the tunnel into East Boston, hook a left. There is a college there or some sort of educational facility.
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Hi david,
I train at a sports club in Newton, and upon further inquiries about the dojo in Boston, it seems that several people had already attempted to locate it without much success. But they did mention that the classes were taught by some fellows called Gary, Darren, David, Cookie, and Barry. Other than that, that's all the info that they had on it. It's a shame that one couldn't visit these schools, but all the same, thanks for the info, david.....LD88
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LD88,

It's like this... These aren't the "standard" dojos per se where the general public can sign up to get training. One "club" is part of an "organzation" that has long, deep roots in the history of the community. You don't sign up for lessons. It's not a martial arts club. It's way more than that. You sign up with significant and deep thought given to the attendant obligations that such membership means for you to the group and the group to you. Learning martial arts is but a very, very small part of being a member of that group. Understand?

The other very small group is the informal training group organized by me. I make no apologies for this. One is that I have a very small space that can't accommodate more than 8-10 people max without having a deterioration in the training format. Two, if you have followed any of my posts, you will know we don't train a standard Uechi-ryu curriculum. It's chop suey -- ecclectic. This is fine since we are not working on or perpetuating a style. I don't have rank and I don't give rank. Depending on where you are with your Uechi training, it may actually hinder rather than help you progress through the style. Three, we train informally but hard. NO ONE gets angry and if s/he does, than they need reconsider another training format. Chemistry and trust among the participants are very important to make this training format work.

Look, if one trains long enough and gets around enough, one develops a network of martial arts friends. Among these friends, an informal training group can emerge. Such group only serves to complement and not replace the formal training that each member is already engaged in. It's no big deal in the greater scheme and at the same time it is for those who participate. Such a training format doesn't work with folks just going in and out. If you want a training format like this, you can make one of your own.

I train somewhat consistently at the Hut. I attended summer camp the last four summers and plan to be there again this year. I get to the regionals and the special seminars that pop up here and there. If you're doing the same, we'll eventually meet and hopefully train some together. That would be nice. The "specialness" of this would be you pursuing and seizing your training opportunities as I do mine.

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Okay, another thought about "informal" training partners...

Enter into these relationships with care. There are sometimes more obligations involved than one would think... It you go to an organized, pay as you go, seminar, the exchange of "fee for instruction" is generally pretty clear cut and limited, though not always.

If you meet up with an individual (or individuals) where training is not fee for instruction, then you're entering into some sort of obligation that may require reciprocation at a later date. Are such individuals the type of folk you want to be obligated to? Think about it. Seminars and workshops are good places to meet other folks and figure out if you want that kind of obligation to.

I've met different folks in different parts of the country that I have trained with informally. I am glad to have these relationships. But I made these relationships with care and thought.

I strongly suggest NOT jumping into such relationships without thought and caution.

david
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