"If you really believe in this day and age where so many Black folks are in Law Enforcement that Black folks were turned away at official roadblocks and whatnot by Mighty white, Dear Lady, I don't know what to say because I don't want to insult you. You're smart, you've been snookered if you believe that. There is no way in Modern America where they are going to pull off Klan like behavior like that."
I was replying to Dana Sheets...
To which Gene responded:
Now, I responded in a flippant manner and was a little sarcastic for a reason. We were discussing the Electoral College and the many Florida re-counts in the Bush V. Gore Election.Gene DeMambro wrote:
In the 2000 election, federal election monitors acting under the auspices of the Voting Rights Act, monitored the elections in many Alabama counties due to continued violations of the Voting Rights Act in that state.
Gene
Florida.
Not Alabama.
Florida is joined with Alabama, if I remember correctly, but it is still not Alabama.
Then I replied:
"It's 1960! Again! Who'da thunk it?"
Gene once again responded:
Gene, No it's not. The fantasy that it is...is part of the reason we still have incredibly crappy race relations and racism in this country. I'm sorry. It's not 1960 in ANY state in this country.Gene DeMambro wrote:
In certain voting sictricts in certain parts of certain states, it is.
Gene
It is the sort of thing that Jesse Jackson gathers a bunch of Black folks together, whips them into a rage as if "Mississippi Burning" is a modern day reality and every day or election cycle occurrence, and then herds them onto a bus and they go protest somewhere.
Jesse Jackson, the good Reverend Adulterer, who gathered up people from Northern Illinois (Read: Chicago) and takes them down-state to protest the expulsion of Black thug "students" who hardly spent any time in school, who went on a rampage pounding on people during a sports event at school.
I believe it was reported that three of these young "men," out of the three if you added up all the days they attended school that year, it still would not equal one student going to school with good attendance.
But their right to an education was being endangered, an education that they had not taken advantage of because they hardly ever went and when they did, apparently they beat on people...so how can you take away something from someone who does not want it to begin with?
You can if you cause enough of a controversy and everyone is terrified of being branded a "racist" or a "bigot" and you walk all over them, as Jesse "Hi" Jackson did.
Get it? Jesse ... Hijack(son)?
He profits from racism, there have been accusations that he shakes down corporations for perceived racism. I wonder who gets the money, the people he supposedly champions or does he use it to pay people off he impregnates? That's not an accusation, it's a simple question, it's not libel or anything like that, it's a question. Without racism, he might possibly be a real Reverend, yeah? You know, living a good life, comfortable, as a Reverend.
I mention this because it is important. Jesse Jackson is to race relations as Geraldo Rivera is to finding Old Gangster's riches. Except through bullying and accusations of racism and bigotry, Jesse gets his way. Geraldo just made an ass out of himself and went to go lick his wounds for a couple/few years after the "Al Capone's Vault" debacle.
Al Sharpton does as well. He's another real winner that spews this sort of venom that people like you believe. It's sad.
We could go into the lawsuit that he lost if you want to, oh, what the hell, let's look at the outcome of it. Court TV is owned by a dyed in the wool, Clinton supporting liberal, so I don't think there is any need to question the source. It is what it is.
http://www.courttv.com/legaldocs/newsmakers/tawana/In November of 1987, a 15-year-old girl named Tawana Brawley was found in upstate New York, covered with feces and racial slurs written in charcoal. Brawley, who is black, claimed to have been abducted and raped by six white law enforcement officers.
A decade later, the men who advised Brawley after the alleged incident -- Al Sharpton, Alton Maddox, and lawyer C. Vernon Mason -- are being sued by one of those six men: Steven Pagones, then a local prosecutor, now an assistant state attorney general.
In a trial that began December 3, 1997 in a Duchess County, New York courtroom, Pagones sought damages for defamation that escalated during the course of the trial from $150 million to $395 million, but returned to $150 million during the eventual damages phase.
Brawley, now 25 and called Maryam Muhammad, appeared after 10-year silence at a Brooklyn rally the night before her advisors' trial began to insist once more that her charges are true.
Her case was ultimately thrown out in 1988 when a grand jury determined that her story was not credible. Justice S. Barrett Hickman of the New York State Supreme Court has allowed that report to be included as evidence in the current trial.
On July 13, 1998, after a trial lasting almost eight months, a jury found the three advisors liable for defaming Pagones.
Just over two weeks later, on July 29, the jury awarded Pagones $345,000 in damages, about two percent of the amount he originally sought. Sharpton was found liable for $65,000 of the total damages, Maddox for $95,000 and Mason for $185,000.
Oh my Gene, what a mess, huh? It seems as though the major players in the race game in this country are just infected with this sort of thing.
Understand that you can say something, you can scream it from the mountaintops, but that does not make it so.
Should we discuss more about Sharpton? Perhaps later. It's sort of Soul-killing to do so, it's depressing to think of the greatness that exists in peoples of all colors, but it is being wasted on the depressing and Soul-killing profiteers of racism.
Perhaps we should discuss Louis Farrakhan?
Please. I hardly ever eat breakfast, but I think I might vomit regardless of ingestion of anything other than Maxwell House at the moment. If someone cannot figure out Louis, God bless you.
These are the players who are carrying the stench of racism and they use people, they really use them and then they discard them. They live quite well, they're wealthy, and the people they champion, well their Saviors in the race game, they whine and complain about the Government giving them more because God knows they won't share the wealth that they have on the backs of these people.
The accusation of Police turning away Black voters in the State of Florida appeals to those who are predisposed to believe that the KKK is still a powerful entity. Here is a newsflash, they're not and they have not been for a very long time.
As I pointed out originally, which you ignored and used an Alabama Red Herring and Straw Man Argument against, do you think in this day and age where there are so many Black Police Officers, that there could be a concerted effort, Official or Quasi-Official, to set up roadblocks and turn Black voters away from the Polls?
It's an interesting and sad thing to watch the major players in the race game in this country, Gene. It's interesting that the NAACP has not had their hand slapped by the Courts for lobbying for the Democratic Party, which they do and they deny that they do it.
During the last Presidential Election Cycle, we were treated to a very interesting commercial from the NAACP with a voice-over from James Byrd's Daughter. With a chain dragging and on the bumper? A Texas license plate.
Here is something else that stoked all of that "Hate Crime Legislation" Gene, you might find it very interesting.
http://www.texashatecrime.com/
Meanwhile, where I live, we tend to joke after two Election Cycles with then Governor Glendenning that we are fortunate that Election Day is so close to Halloween, for it makes it easier for the dead people to rise and vote for Democrats.
And in Baltimore, Chicago and Los Angeles, allegations are surfacing of roving bands of voters who were taken in buses from precinct to precinct to vote in place of registered voters who had moved away or who had never voted before.
"We are relatively certain people were being taken from polling place to polling place and allowed to vote," said Republican national committeewoman from Maryland, Ellen Sauerbrey.
How can someone vote in place of another? Actually, it's fairly simple -- for the fraudulently inclined. In many states, including Maryland, it is illegal to ask voters to present identification, on the pretext that would be construed as voter intimidation. Election officials in Maryland and in many other states are allowed to ascertain a voter's true identity by asking only for their name, address and date of birth.
"But in practice, there's no check whatsoever," Sauerbrey said. "The election judge will prompt you by asking if you live at such and such address, if you were born at such and such date. This makes it easier for one person to vote in the name of another, simply by mimicking the signature on the voter card.
"Repeated attempts by Republicans in Maryland to pass legislation that would require voters to present identification at the polls have been blocked by the Democratic majority in the state's House of Delegates.
http://www.timmerman2000.com/news/wnd001215.htm
Before you think I am making a baseless accusation of the same type you did about voter intimidation, etc., let me say this. She proved that dead people voted for the Democrat she ran against.
Something interesting happened during one of Sauerbrey's runs for the Governor. Someone had placed fliers on the cars of Black folks with pictures of Police K-9s tearing up Black folks in the 1960s. A message was clear, vote for her and you vote for that. Some of the absolutely worst form of terroristic propaganda...but hey, it comes to some people naturally.
That is the sort of thing that can make people lose elections, that is why the claims of voting irregularities were reported in Gore V. Bush.
It never happened.
The great danger in perpetrating myths and false allegations of this type are, Gene, that good people can get hurt and it also continues to pour salt in old wounds that should have been healed by now. Instead, they are ripped open and the salt is poured in because healed wounds don't make money. Healed wounds don't win elections.
