the psyche of sparring

2Green · Post by **2Green** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:14 am

F. Channel wrote:
"Just looking across the ring it's hard not to picture yourself defeated.
This is one point I never seem to see discussed on the forums.
I've tried to bring it up but it's been passed over.
Perhaps they've never been in that situation."

This might be worth some exploration.

NM

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:36 am

thanks Neil , is a good topic .

Ive been lucky to fight some monsters , one German competitor was ranked 2nd in the world and 7 ft tall

talk about going in a ring with mindset .

My basic attitude has always been one of

Get the ##### out of my ring ........ One of my strengths and weaknesses as a competitior was the use of aggression and adrenalin .

I had triggering it down to an art .

the emotional pinnacle of competing for me was facing the Australian champ , he was a brilliant and skilled fighter , I loved watching him , he had presence and technique , he moved beautifully and commited instantly .

Lining up against him in the ring and looking across having watched him , impressed and happy to have witnessed his skill , I bowed in admiration and respect , and it was a moment of realisation for me ... You dont have nothing I aint got . This is mindset , this is how you take it to anyone who challenges you ... 100 %

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:46 am

Get up your embarrassing us

That my friend is mindset

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:50 am

Dont tell all my storys at once

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:20 am

Just a teaser mate

Van Canna · Post by **Van Canna** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:35 pm

Marcus,

Excellent, that is mindset.

Not many practitioners get to that point. In fact, many would duck that kind of competition, or any competition at all, proclaiming that they"fight for real" _ ever heard that kind of BS?

TSDguy · Post by **TSDguy** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:11 pm

proclaiming that they"fight for real"

http://www.uechi-ryu.com/forums/viewtop ... 98c8739244

Har har har.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:13 pm

Perhaps it's just an issue of what underwear you wear...

I was always kinda partial to those old Uechi "diaper" uniforms.

- Bill

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:29 pm

Van and I have been going back and forth on various forums about big guys and such. It's been a bit puzzling to me, but...whatever.

it's hard not to picture yourself defeated

...until the day you realize that picturing yourself defeated is step one in the defeat. This is the basis of psyops in the the military.

If you picture yourself defeated, just grab your ankles and be done with it.

Picturing yourself victorious isn't going to guarantee victory. Back to the military, "the mother of all battles" ended in the mother of all retreats. Having no connection whatsoever to reality can be problematic (to say the least).

But considering victory an option and constantly planning for it is step one to achieving it. Any old fool can get their ass kicked, lose money in a company, screw up a relationship, etc. That's yesterday's news. The fun is bringing your own agenda to the situation and altering history.

Yes, it's attitude. But attitude starts with perspective. That's complex... It's a neurotransmitter thing, and we're all just learning how positively to affect that. Drugs help. But research shows behavioral "therapy" (operant conditioning, etc.) can cause fundamental changes similar to what drugs do to our neurotransmitter levels.

Cool stuff!

- Bill

Van Canna · Post by **Van Canna** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:28 pm

Van and I have been going back and forth on various forums about big guys and such. It's been a bit puzzling to me, but...whatever.

And you keep on missing the point.

You might want to recall that my forum has been about mindset from day one, addressing the very issues here.

You can imagine yourself victorious as you smash up against the side of a mountain too.

Someone once wrote that fighting a pro ball player is like running into a tree.

The message should be that discretion is the best part of valor.

Reminds me of the story about newly made shodans who traveled to the Boston combat zone to prove the "belt" _and got their sorry asses handed to them.

WE HAVE DELUSIVE PRACTITIONERS_ like the one who would go into supermarkets, dressed in a gi, and try to kick cans off shelves...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:45 pm

Bill Glasheen wrote: I was always kinda partial to those old Uechi "diaper" uniforms.

I guess if your going to be a man magnet you must dress the part

To drafty for my taste.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:48 pm

I am not missing your point. My previous post shows it.

Big mistake running into a tree. Not my idea of a good time; ask Sonny Bono.

I don't fight big men on their terms. Big mistake. I learned that "the hard way" a few times.

- Bill

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:51 pm

Laird

I don't know... It worked for the old guys. I just figured the old ways were best.

Pardon me while I contemplate my chi...

- Bill

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:55 pm

A diaper wearing chister

....boy I had you pegged wrong.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:59 pm

Yea, mate. Pass the lotus...

- Bill