Bad Knees

nosib · Post by **nosib** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 3:26 am

To the attention of LEE DARROW and any other individuals having knee,hip,back or sholder problems. A treatment that may be of help--PROLO Therapy. It has worked wonders for my wife's knees and my godan son swears by it--repaired an atrophyed muscle on his inner thigh and fixed a hip joint injured in a fall. Go to WWW.jointrehab.com and click on the Prolotherapy/point injection section for a description of this form of treatment.My son has refered 12 other people to his Dr. and all have had positive results of varying degrees.Hope that this might work for you.

Bill Glasheen · Post by **Bill Glasheen** » Fri Jan 25, 2002 2:35 pm

There's an old saying, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."

I take anything written in a Joe Weider publication (the Muscle and Fitness magazine) with a BIG grain of salt. Joe is famous for steroid-pumped athletes as models all over the pages of his magazines pushing products (that supply the advertising $$) that have absolutely nothing to do with the way the athlete looks.

HOWEVER...

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...chronic pain that is the result of stretched and loose connective tissue...

Even this article qualifies the use of prolotherapy.

I read enough of the various sources to believe that this therapy might be useful for some injuries. But I'd FIRST consult a good orthopedist or "jock doc."

Still...very interesting stuff.

- Bill

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Tue Jan 29, 2002 5:05 am

nosib-sama,

Thanks for the lead. My wife is currently receiving trigger point injection therapy for her fibromyalgia and it is doing wonders for her. I was not aware that this therapy was useful for joints as well. There is a center in Oak Park, IL that is run by two of the leading lights in the field and I have placed an inquiry call to them for an evaluation.

I'll let you all know how this works out.

I appreciate the fact that you remembered that I had mentioned my knees, which are simply not working as well as I would like, especially from seiza - that is NO fun at all these days and forced me to discontinue the Iai-do lessons, unfortunately.

Anything that could help is appreciated.

Thanks again. And to Glasheen-Sensei for the comments about the material as well. I always double check on any new therapy. I learned a long time ago that there are things that don't work for me that work for others and vice versa. Given that this seems to be working for Nanci, I am going to take a much closer look. Thanks, seriously.

Thanks to both of you.

Sincerely,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

[This message has been edited by LeeDarrow (edited January 28, 2002).]

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Tue Jan 29, 2002 5:10 am

nosib-sama,

NOW, I'm spooked!!

The lead doctor on this is Dr. Marc DARROW, MD, JD. He's a psychiatrist, to boot!

As a Certified Hypnotherapist, the parallel is just a bit - unnerving.

But it's Monday and my freak-out levels haven't stabilized, yet...

Thanks again.

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

nosib · Post by **nosib** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 3:09 am

Lee D, Hang tough buddy...cause I know the Doc will find you a prime canadate for this procedure.The servarity of your condition may require several treatments.A day or two of stiffness will follow each visit...but soon you will feel improvement. I have seen what this treatment has done for others in offering them some form of relief and just wanted to pass this information on. You're most welcome.....take it easy on the kicks though!

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 4:30 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nosib:
Lee D, Hang tough buddy...cause I know the Doc will find you a prime canadate for this procedure.The servarity of your condition may require several treatments.A day or two of stiffness will follow each visit...but soon you will feel improvement. I have seen what this treatment has done for others in offering them some form of relief and just wanted to pass this information on. You're most welcome.....take it easy on the kicks though!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

nosib-sama,

I will. The center in Chicago is in Oak Park - where I was born and raised. The medical office is in the Medical Arts Building - where my pediatrician had HIS office when I was a kid. This gets spookier by the minute!

My wife has been getting prolotherapy for the last three months for her fibromyalgia and it has done wonders. I just wasn't aware that it was useful for joints. Come to think of it, my left shoulder could probably use this, too. I spend all day with a phone propped to my ear and it gets rather unhappy with me on a daily basis as well.

Thanks for the lead on this.. I'll let you know how it works out!

Respectfully and with thanks,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

LeeDarrow · Post by **LeeDarrow** » Wed Jan 30, 2002 6:57 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Glenn:
Mr. Darrow,

A headset would likely help your shoulder, since it would stop the activity that is causing the problem. Headsets are highly recommended from an ergonomic perspective if you spend a lot of time on the phone. At the very least you may want to consider a shoulder rest for your phone, but a headset would still be better in the long run, particularly since you are already having problems. Yeah it takes a bit to get use to a headset, but they really aren't just for operators and telemarketers anymore! Just something to consider.

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Glenn-sama,

Thanks for the suggestion. The phone system I'm on at work is almost as old as I am (dating back to the Jurassic period) and, as such, because of the crossover wire tech that they used to use, headsets are not available for this dinosaur system.

Believe me, I have asked, pleaded, begged, cajoled and searched the net for them. Best I've gotten is a shoulder rest.

With luck, this will change soon as we are supposed to be going through an upgrade to a "twisted-pair" system of tin can phones, as opposed to the clam shells and seaweed system we currently have.

I am only slightly kidding.

Thanks, though. I will look into alternative shoulder rests.

With appreciation,

Lee Darrow, C.Ht.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Jan 31, 2002 5:55 am

Mr. Darrow,

A headset would likely help your shoulder, since it would stop the activity that is causing the problem. Headsets are highly recommended from an ergonomic perspective if you spend a lot of time on the phone. At the very least you may want to consider a shoulder rest for your phone, but a headset would still be better in the long run, particularly since you are already having problems. Yeah it takes a bit to get use to a headset, but they really aren't just for operators and telemarketers anymore! Just something to consider.

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Glenn Humphress
Lincoln, NE

akuma_shogun · Post by **akuma_shogun** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 9:30 am

Well my view on health. is. "Healthy Mind Healthy Body" I view my self as fit. I dont think of sickneses...i can run a 40 in about 4.7 which isnt reall fast. but i have been cmoking for 4 years. a pack a day. I had bad shoulders and knees. after about 3 weeks of Kolodo i din have bad knees or shoulders. I think everything that can be wrong with body. Starts with mind. Thats my view. thnkX for reading

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Feb 05, 2002 4:13 pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by akuma_shogun:

but i have been cmoking for 4 years. a pack a day.

Drug addiction is a terrible thing. A wise Sensei once told us "No sense polishing an apple if it's rotten inside".

Mind, Body,Spirit, why poison the body?

End of rant

Laird