Yang Jwing Ming off to the Woods for 10 years

cdoucet · Post by **cdoucet** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:37 pm

Where do I sign up at... take me away from this world to one of just training all day long and other chores.. get me away from corporate america (or corporate Canada)!.

Chris

benzocaine · Post by **benzocaine** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:09 pm

Just don't drink the cool aide.

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:01 pm

He's more of a martial artist than many might imagine.

those are his words not mine . But maybe he`s an actuall secret humble Master . Would be cool if it`s true .

jorvik · Post by **jorvik** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:17 pm

I think that Yang is probably very good..he is at least an addict like me

..if you check out his website or get his DVD's they are pretty good....He is a "Chi-Ster" but not in the accepted sense.....his "Dr" staus is earned not honorary and it is in science

f.Channell · Post by **f.Channell** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:06 am

Jim,

Most of the old school Japanese Jujitsu is developed around the weapons and armor which they wore in that day. Also remember the Japanese didn't have trade or recognize China for hundreds of years which is why Okinawa was influenced by China as a link between Japan and China.
If we were to start giving credit for the development of grappling arts I'm sure we have to travel back to Greek and Roman times with it's gradual influence on India east. Pancration I think it's called goes back pretty far.
It's pretty safe to say that grappling arts began when one caveman fell and another jumped on him. Probably in Africa.
Probably involved a woman somehow!

F.

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:31 am

It's pretty safe to say that grappling arts began when one caveman fell and another jumped on him

I think they devloped when one Wing chun guy closed on a Ving tsun guy and the ended up rolling around in the mud ....

Just Kidding Jim , got to agree with Fred on this one

Rick Wilson · Post by **Rick Wilson** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:44 am

I have a number of his books and enjoy them.

JimHawkins · Post by **JimHawkins** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:21 am

So a bazillion character language migrated from the mainland but zero chinna/ma made it? Okay...

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:53 am

Everything probably influenced everything , no one owns anything really

But I think it quite possible the Japanese codified and designed there own arts . In fact it`s a given thats why they are japanese arts .

I think actually Bhohidarama originally brought it from India as a from of Yoga

I love chinese styles , I do have a lot more time for Judo than Chin na , just because I figure Ive got plenty of time to evolve that way , but I wont be able to bang like this forever ....

But really it`s all the same .

I think the old it existed here before here thing is pretty redundant , MA has existed ever since man perceived the need to defend himself .

I`d say it`s the second oldest proffession .

AAAhmed46 · Post by **AAAhmed46** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:59 am

Actually, i dont think it was yoga. I think it was other fighting arts. I could be wrong though!

wes tasker · Post by **wes tasker** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:20 am

Mr. Channell-

I would suggest you look into a person in Jujutsu history named Chin Gempin (Ch'en Yuan-pin) who was Chinese but living in Japan. He taught three bushi some Chinese fighting arts (the three were Fukuno Shichiroemon, Miura Yojimen, Isogai Jirozaemon). These three had previous background in Jujutsu arts - but they were greatly influenced by Gempin. This is recorded in a book called "Honcho Bugei Shoden" which was written in 1714. So there are distinct "Chinese" influences on some Jujutsu-ryu. Also, some of the Jujutsu-ryu were very atemi oriented. I have more written somewhere, but this is pretty much what I can remember off the top of my head about Gempin's influence on Jujutsu.

Lastly, from what I've seen of Dr. Yang - he is very skilled.

-wes tasker

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:50 am

Actually, i dont think it was yoga. I think it was other fighting arts. I could be wrong though!

Sorry I should of posted with severe sarcasim warnings mate , i dont buy all the straight line lineage back to day dot stuff .

Heck take alook at whats happened to uechi in 1 generation .

f.Channell · Post by **f.Channell** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:17 am

The first reported Jujitsu match occured between Nomi no Sukune and Taima no Kuyehaya and was recorded in the book Nihongi in AD 720. The match occured in 23 B.C.

It is said the first Japanese ryuha came from this match. It also included atemi, which was used in the match.

I'm sure Japanese and Chinese systems influenced each other to some degree. Russian Sambo influenced Judo in the 70's. In 1964 Japan was shocked to lose a gold medal in the Olympics. They had to admit strength and size were a factor in their matches with the west.

F.