Bat-man begins vs Super-man returns.

[Bill Glasheen]

Adam

Chloe Sullivan is played by Allison Mack. Here is a shot of her, found online.



She has what I would consider a very "normal" body, which actually fits in well with the character she plays. She's not just a pretty thing; she's a tenacious professional who happens to be Clark's loyal friend and secret admirer.

But... But... Check out this face.

Allison Mack

As a person and an actress, she starts with a face easy on the eyes, but an ability to transform her expression to many extremes. Take a look at how she does that on the show.

As a person interested in pursuing something she wanted - in the show or in real life - she would very dangerous...

I find the dynamic on the show to be interesting. In the Chloe-Clark-Lois triangle, everyone knows what's up. Chloe and Lois are cousins. All of the three know that Chloe likes Clark, but Clark wants Chloe as a friend. Lois is protective of her cousin, and once told Clark in so many words that she'll kick his ass if he hurts Chloe's feelings. Clark in turn is a good guy, and never would hurt her. Meanwhile, Clark and Lois are like oil and water. On the surface, they can't stand each other but get along because they have to under the circumstances. They are constantly finding ways to give each other a hard time.

Interesting dynamic.

- Bill

[AAAhmed46]

Basically...i like her because she seems more real. People talk of Lana as the girl next door but thats not true, both in looks and personality. Thats Cloe.

Now when do we see a young Bruce Wayne that the producers promised would show up to mess up the shows dynamic?

It would be cool to see Lex meet an equal(in brains).

[TSDguy]

Well Magneto thinks he is doing good.

He's one of the more intriguing villians in my opinion, at least in the movies which I understand are very different from the comics.

I not only could relate to him-- at times I was rooting for him. His sense of honor and loyalty were admirable as well, when he chose to acknowledge them.

[Jake Steinmann]

Well Magneto thinks he is doing good.

He's one of the more intriguing villians in my opinion, at least in the movies which I understand are very different from the comics.

I not only could relate to him-- at times I was rooting for him. His sense of honor and loyalty were admirable as well, when he chose to acknowledge them.

The plots of the movies are very different. The character of Magneto is more or less intact.

And he's the best kind of villian. The kind that sometimes makes you think "you know...he's kind of got a point..."

[AAAhmed46]

Well Magneto thinks he is doing good.

He's one of the more intriguing villians in my opinion, at least in the movies which I understand are very different from the comics.

I not only could relate to him-- at times I was rooting for him. His sense of honor and loyalty were admirable as well, when he chose to acknowledge them.

He is in one confused state in the comics right now i say.

He basically made peace with charles but then nearly kills his own children, the Scarlet witch freaked out and depowered literally 90% of the mutant population including magneto, with only the more popular mutants who still got powers.

He is now a broken man and very angry.



In the movies, i really really liked how he acknowledged Xavier

"Charles Xavier has done more for mutant kind then you could ever accomplish"

or something like that.

[Bill Glasheen]

If you haven't seen the new Superman movie, don't read this post.

I was describing this movie to someone in my office yesterday evening. We often chat about movies, values (in a cynical kind of way), social norms, politically correct thinking, etc.

The new Superman movie actually goes out on a contemporary limb, and IMO is out of character with DC Comics Clark Kent.

Smallville brings Clark to the brink of being a bad boy, (and makes him one for brief stretches while under the influence of red kryptonite), but he's always reigned in right before he loses his virginity. His parents subsequently have their say about the values they would prefer he demonstrate, and try to make him understand the consequences of various choices. Chloe in one episode talks to Lana about having lost her virginity to a young Daily Planet reporter, and tells here the pluses and minuses of various choices. Lana feels pressured to doing the deed with an older "college boy" with "needs", but doesn't in the end.

But what's this with Clark, Lois, and this new boyfriend? Clark comes back after half a dozen years checking out the remains of planet Krypton, and here's Lois with a baby. She has a baby and a boyfriend, but then chooses not to marry. Jimmy Olsen says something about her pining for the right someone.

And then we find out that... Could it be...

Did Superman get Lois knocked up??? Oh my... Honey, hide the children!!!

And there are no marriage plans? No lawyers, DNA tests, or alimony?

"Why the World Doesn't Need Superman" wins Lois a Pulitzer. But really it's all about the modern feminist Lois and why she doesn't need her sperm donor to raise her child. That's the hidden secret beneath the accolade given her by the Pulitzer committee.

Hmm... This is Middle America? Truth, justice, and the American way?

The movie is what it is. But it seems intentionally out of character for Clark Kent, his upbringing, and the whole "Middle America" values theme. Sure, Clark will have to deal with Sex in the City, and he's a big boy who can make his own personal decisions. But the major focus of the plot? Interesting...

Lois the modern, "I can do it all" feminist? Maybe it's in character for her. But THAT theme these days now seems a touch anachronistic or - as the kids would say - "So ten minutes ago!." More like a sixties/seventies theme maybe...

Then again, Jay Leno's been having a blast with an article in The Advocate that speaks to the "gay theme" in the Superman series. As he put it, 'As soon as someone puts on tights and a cape and goes out in public, the first thing people think is "Gay!"'

- Bill

[AAAhmed46]

SPOILERS!!!!!!





Considering the beating Lois took at the beginning of the movie when she first meets super-man, im not surprised she was able to get into bed with him without hurting herself.


Smallville is a good show, but i wish they made clark more bumbling like he really is supposed to be.

In smallville he's charismatic and attractive.

When girls are in the room with me watching smallville and Tom Welling takes of his shirt you can see thier reactions.


I liked how Brendon Routh(dont know the spelling of his last name) played clark.

Though his super-man performance was kind of robotic.

[AAAhmed46]

Then again, Jay Leno's been having a blast with an article in The Advocate that speaks to the "gay theme" in the Superman series. As he put it, 'As soon as someone puts on tights and a cape and goes out in public, the first thing people think is "Gay!"'

Come on, what was he thinking when he was making that costume?!?!?!

UNDERWEAR OUTSIDE THE PANTS!!! EVEN AS A KID THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I NOTICED THAT WAS UNUSUAL!

[Bill Glasheen]

Smallville is a good show, but i wish they made clark more bumbling like he really is supposed to be.

In smallville he's charismatic and attractive.

To start with, The WB likes to make shows using "the beautiful people." It's their typical cheesy lineup. At least most of the characters in Smallville can act.

Second... It's fair to assume that Clark in Smallville is still learning how to be the schizophrenic personality he needs to be to have the cover of anonymity while working in The Daily Planet. While in Smallville, he's still developing his identity. Remember when Clark was going through puberty and lustful thinking, and accidentally started catching things on fire with his heat vision? I can relate...

The whole Clark Kent schtic as an adult is IMO a purposeful act. Unlike Popeye who isn't strong unless he eats spinach, The Hulk who isn't hulking unless he's mad, or Fearless Fly who is helpless without his glasses, Clark is Clark is Clark. The uniform is a literary device used for the readers/viewers to understand which role he's playing. And it's Clark's device to separate the person willing to use super powers from the person who hides under the cover of being a "normal human."

If you'll notice in Superman Returns, Lois' boyfriend asks her to look at Clark and speculate how tall she thinks he is. It's supposed to be a leading question. Clark hears them talking about him (and understands why) and purposefully does a "blumbling Clark" bit. The act aptly covers his trail, causing them both to burst out laughing.

It's the actor playing someone playing an act.

- Bill

[cdoucet]

Seen the new Superman last night.. its pretty good.. I haven't watched some of the older stuff in a very long long time. So I found it a little hard to see where they were getting the story line from.

I've watched smallville from the day it started. awesome stuff. Its getting a little raunchy for me tho. I couldnt watch the episode where that chick mind controls Clark to make out and do other things with him.

Allison Mack is such a hottie. Her smile is amazing and she keeps getting better looking every season!.. wish she would have my babies!.

Everyone has forgotten one of best characters on the show. And in my opinion one of the best actors for his show. Lex luthar! and his dad. The Banter between them is amazing, It gives alot of life to the show. their storylines are some of my favorites.

I wish the guy that played lexx in smallville played him in the movie. ahh well they got the older guy. can't think of his name off the top of my head. He did an allright job I must admit.


Chris

[AAAhmed46]

Kevin Spacey was lex luthor.

[AAAhmed46]

Good point bill. Maybe the bumbling does come afterward.


Chloe has a nice body Bill!

Chloe vs Veronica Mars.

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36326

[Bill Glasheen]

You both are right. And yes, some women do get better-looking with age.

Quick question though... Do you notice anything different between the noses in these pictures?





She wouldn't be the first... My wife collected female bodybuilding pictures over time when she was competing. It's always amazing how the women's noses got smaller, and their breasts dramatically larger. Corey Everson - five-time Miss Olympia - was the classic case of "surgical enhancement."

<Sigh...>

- Bill

[Bill Glasheen]

Seen the new Superman last night.. its pretty good.. I haven't watched some of the older stuff in a very long long time. So I found it a little hard to see where they were getting the story line from.

You aren't alone.

- Bill

[Mary S]

Hmmmm....I'm not sure Bill. Consider the unflattering lighting in the first shot, serious make up artistry, hair and the titling of the head in the second. It's amazing what make up can do these days, everything from hiding serious facial flaws to spray on abs.....