Poor dog.

[AAAhmed46]

http://zanyvideos.com/video/1610/Deandr ... -Cops.html

Takes so long to train these things i hear.


Aparently the guy is seen to not have a gun in the full version, though it seemed like he did to me, so i assume he did.

Plus he was acting VERY aggressive and said he had a gun, the police cant take any chances.

EDIT: The extened version i think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akvtGcH_djs


Youtube version is by far superior.

So apperently the guy DIDNT have a gun.

Still, the police reallly were presented with a tough situation.

Though i find it strange that they moved for the dog first despite the fact the guy is still moving.

HOwever, i find i felt bad for the dog more simply because the guy was just taunting the cops.

[Bill Glasheen]

Watch the tape very carefully.

First of all, I have no sympathy for this man. He clearly states multiple times that he has a gun with enough rounds to counter what they are doing. There was no reason for him not to give up, and he was an idiot telling an armed posse with 2 dogs that he might shoot.

Second, the shooting started first; THEN the dog entered the picture. If you watch the shadows, you will see that the dogs were nearby.

• It could be that it was a Ready, Set, GO!! situation where shooting started at the same time that the dog was released from the leash, and he entered the line of fire.
• Maybe the handler thought that the perp fired first, and released his dog to protect the officers. I don't think so, but we don't know what the K-9 officer thought he saw.
• Maybe the dog was released, and some idiot accidentally jerked his trigger finger. The next thing you know, you have Kent State all over again.

It's a shame to waste a perfectly good dog on a piece of scum like this. But my own dog is whining in the room next door, begging me to take him for a walk. Thankfully there are still good dogs out there to remind us how much they love us and would give their lives for us.

As a final note... Did it ever occur to anyone how logically crazy the concerns of the perp were? He seemed not to care so much about a dozen or so officers with firearms trained in his direction. His brain was focused on the dogs, for crying out loud. Amazing... It's like a person who would never go on a plane for fear of it crashing, but wouldn't think twice about driving home in rush hour traffic.

It just goes to show that perceptions alone can create important realities in a fight.

- Bill

[AAAhmed46]

Suicide by cop?

[Bill Glasheen]

It's hard to say without more information. Something tells me no. The threats were simply a matter of what he would do if the dogs were released. But we don't know any more about the situation.

He also may have been in denial of the inevitability of his fate, and was simply trying to buy time with his bluffing. And we don't know if he was drugged in any way.

I'm still trying to figure out why a camera existed with such a clear view of the perp. Who was shooting that film? It would have been a perfect vantage point from which to take him out without also getting a dog involved.

With 20/20 hindsight, it probably could have been handled differently. It didn't appear he was going anywere. But that's way too easy for us to say.

- Bill

[AAAhmed46]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZY2iWdo_0


This guy really must hate cops(the guy who posts these vidoes)


but i think it's rather surprising how similar the two girls look to eachother.


But to blame the police, i dont think thats wise.

The systems for checking identity? Yeah thats legit.

But the cops themselves? I think ALOT of people would also face confusion.

[IJ]

I'm don't have any police in my family, but if you look at the comments on these videos, some people think they're supposed to risk their own lives and health and futures to protect the safety of criminals and drug crazed psychos who are ignoring their reasonable and clearly state orders. That shouldn't be part of the bargain. If a man threatening violence and thought to be carrying a gun (by his own statements!!) makes an aggressive movement, they risk getting shot. Don't like it? Then don't threaten violence, say you're carrying a gun, and make aggressive motions. Or heck go patrol the streets armed with some hallmark cards and see how you like it.

This does remind me of an excellent Chris Rock video, where he had instructions on how not to get beat by the police. He had a lot of african americans misbehaving, saying stupid things, playing the wrong music, bringing guests with drugs, whatever... then getting overly aggressively tackled... it's pretty clear to anyone with a brain who sees the video he's critiquing both sides of the affair--and particularly those who act as if police violence always occurs out of nowhere, eg, the Rodney King was a "motorist" set.

[chewy]

It's hard to say without more information. Something tells me no. The threats were simply a matter of what he would do if the dogs were released. But we don't know any more about the situation.

He also may have been in denial of the inevitability of his fate, and was simply trying to buy time with his bluffing. And we don't know if he was drugged in any way.

I'm still trying to figure out why a camera existed with such a clear view of the perp. Who was shooting that film? It would have been a perfect vantage point from which to take him out without also getting a dog involved.

With 20/20 hindsight, it probably could have been handled differently. It didn't appear he was going anywere. But that's way too easy for us to say.

- Bill

The camera was way too steady to be hand held. I imagine it was a police camera. Perhaps a cruiser parked there with its lights off.

That poor dog. A total waste.

steve

[Bill Glasheen]

Good assessment of the Chris Rock skit, Ian.

Roy Bedard - LEO and LEO instructor - was at camp this past summer and showed all kinds of interesting videos from various sources that they use while training future officers. This video was on the lighter side of the menu. The combination of humor and the street perspective from "Been there, done that" Chris Rock gives this video plenty of "truth power" while managing not to raise politically correct barriers. Chris has an amazing ability to do that. It's truly a gift.

For your viewing pleasure...

How To Not Get Your Ass Kicked By The Police

- Bill