


firstly since this is an old amnesty, here is something written 20 years ago
I would imagine that by the time this item is published, most constabularies around the country who have held an 'amnesty' for knives and other weapons will be reporting good results; 'good' but futile.
Now my dictionary defines the word 'amnesty' as meaning a general pardon for an offence, in which case this particular form of amnesty has been a complete waste of time. Out of the hundereds or even thousands of edged eapons handed in, how many have been used, or were intended to be used, in the furtherance of crime?
Who has surrendered the weapon?
There are three kinds of knife. There is the type kept for a sensible purpose such as survival (in various forms), the knife used as a tool of ones trade such as for carpet fitting, leather trimming, etc, and for a variety of general purpose use such as by farmers, forestry workers, warehousemen and so on, ad infinitum.
These are not offensive weapons and since they have not been used 'for an offence' the term 'amnesty' does not apply. Some of these will have been handed in, but not many. Why should they be?
The second kind involves those blades brought or handed down as souveniers, whether fancy paper knives, grandads old bayonet which he took from a German soldier at the battle of Casino, or uncles collection of Kukri's from when he served in Burma. This kind also includes those confiscated by parents from wayward offspring and can range from a full-blown 'Rambo knife' to a pen knife with an over-large blade.
Many of this type will have been handed in, mainly because they are no longer wanted.
The third kind involves all those used by criminals such as muggers, rapists and other lesser life-forms. None of these will have been surrendered and therefore the 'amnesty' (the word does apply acurately in this case) has been an utter faliure.
Many perfectly law-abiding citizens have surrendered blades they no longer have a use for - they didn't want them anyway but were not keen to just toss them out with the household garbage for the sensible reason that they thought they might fall into the wrong hands.
Other law-abiding citizens have said 'I've got a knife, but I use it for legitimate purposes and I don't see why I should hand it in - the amnesty is directed at criminals, anyway, not me'.
These people have kept theirs.
The criminals have had a good laugh and said stuff you, I'm keeping mine - how else can I get money from Old Ladies or strike fear on the football terraces?
These have been kept also.
The knife amnesty has been utterly futile and a waste of police time. It's whole purpose has been as a propoganda measure designed to make people believe something is being doneto clean up street crime.
and shows you what happens to ordinary working folks who need a knife to go about their honest day to day duties
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Builder Colin Read was held for police questioning, had his fingerprints, DNA and mug-shot taken and was threatened with prosecution for carrying the knife which has been the tool of his trade for more than a decade. He believes he was the unwitting victim of a tightening of laws, following a series of tragedies across the country.
The 64-year-old only realised that the blade, which measures less than three inches, was a banned weapon after visiting Norwich Magistrates' Court over a speeding matter - the first time in his life he has been in trouble. He voluntarily handed the knife to security guards only to be told they had no option but to call the police.
Mr Read, from Hevingham, said: “I've never been in trouble or put a foot wrong with the law in my entire life until now. Now I've had to live with the stress of a potential jail sentence hanging over my head.”
Home Office guidelines state that it is an offence to carry a knife in public without good reason - for example a chef carrying knives to work. The maximum penalty is four years in prison and a fine of £5,000.
Knives where the blade folds into the handle, like a Swiss army knife, are not illegal, as long as the blade is shorter than three inches. This is because it would be difficult to use them to cause a serious injury. But those with a lockable blade - like Mr Read's - or Stanley and kitchen knives are banned.
Mr Read has now been released with a caution but must still pay a costly legal bill and face a stain on his record.
A spokesman for Norfolk police said lock knives are prohibited and they had no option but to arrest Mr Read. Representatives of the Crown Prosecution Service were unavailable for comment.
and the kind of responce you get when somebody shows some common sense ( in this case a Judge)
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Originally Posted by Daily Mail
A judge stunned a court yesterday when he pulled a blade out of his pocket - while sitting on a knife crime case.
Judge Roger Connor brandished his knife in front of a 16-year-old boy accused of wounding with intent and assault.
The boy, who denies the charges, admits using a folding knife but claims he needed only one hand to open it.
Judge Connor pulled out his blade at Oxford Crown Court, saying: 'I have a folding pocket knife in my pocket. You need two hands to open it don't you?'
John Simmons, for the boy, questioned whether carrying the knife in public was legal but the judge said it was as the blade was less than 3in long.
However, furious anti-knife crime campaigners spoke out in horror yesterday and claimed the deputy circuit judge was setting the wrong example.
Lyn Costello, the co-founder of the Mother's Against Murder and Aggression campaign group said that the judge should lose his job.
She said: 'I'm absolutely sickened - I've never heard anything so disgraceful. He should lose his job.
'I will be writing to the Attorney-General about it - at the moment one teenager a week is being murdered on the streets of Britain and here he is brandishing a knife.
'Enough is enough - we need to get tough on knives in this country and our judges should be handing out tough sentences - not brandishing their own.
'There's no reason why he needs the knife there with him in the courtroom - long gone are the days when a blade was needed to remove a stone from a horse's hoove [sic].
'It is legal to carry a blade less than three inches but if it is a lock knife then it is illegal to have it.
'Technically it is legal to have a folding pocket knife in public but it is something of a grey area. Whatever the case, clearly the public don't want him carrying it.'
The 16-year-old defendant, who denies two counts of wounding with intent and two of assault, cannot be named.
The case relates to the stabbing of two youths at a party in Shirburn Road, Watlington, Oxon.
The trial continues.
It just shows you how ill informed Bill was when he said we should all act like Churchill........the rot comes from the highest levels of authority