This may have already been a topic but I wanted some feedback regardless. I have some good friends, husband and wife, that have used this P90x program. They love it and can do this at home. They have had amazing results...my girlfriend now has a great six pack. She was a runner and has stayed fairly fit but has had a third child, wanting a more intense workout. Tony Horton, the originator, includes a food plan to go with this.
It is supposed to initially be a 90 day program and includes resistance training, cardio, plyometrics, yoga, etc. along with his diet plan that starts with 40% protein in meals and backs it down to 20% or less.
Who has used this?
Pros and cons?
I am thinking about buying this to do at home so I need some feedback.
Thanks,
Vicki
P90x Program
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P90x Program
"Cry in the dojo, laugh in the battlefield"
My other half used it briefly. I would come home from BJJ and find him doing it. It totally kicked his buttocks. You have to start pretty fit, and since you work out all the time, it's no surprise that you get fit (he switched to 24 fitness 3 days a week to prepare to return to it, but with the friend motivator and no pullup bar at home, he'll probably stick with that). It's a tough, lengthy trial basically every day. The DVDs are pretty motivational though. I mean, if that one legged guy can do lunges faster than you, what's you excuse? I also like that they're whole body exercises rather than bicep work.
You're required to have a small mat, and either a pullup bar (ideal) or stretchy bands for it, if memory serves.
You're required to have a small mat, and either a pullup bar (ideal) or stretchy bands for it, if memory serves.
--Ian
Late to the game, but...
I just finished my first week of P90X and it's a real good workout. The surprise for me was the "off" days where the plyometrics, excellent stretching program and yoga became my favorite parts of the week and are keepers when I switch back to the Y. The Kempo X didn't thrill me so I'm going to switch in one of the other cardio programs for that. Even the yoga will get you sweating. Each workout is about an hour and includes warm ups, brief rests and instruction. We're not using the diet plan yet as we're already eating pretty well.
My wife started today after seeing me sweating pretty good after the leg and back workout. She's an ab freak and will have a great time with the Ab Ripper portion.
All in all a very good well rounded program that's fairly portable, uses few pieces of equipment, cheap (bought mine through Amazon $60) and pretty serious. Highly recommend it to karate folks.
My wife started today after seeing me sweating pretty good after the leg and back workout. She's an ab freak and will have a great time with the Ab Ripper portion.
All in all a very good well rounded program that's fairly portable, uses few pieces of equipment, cheap (bought mine through Amazon $60) and pretty serious. Highly recommend it to karate folks.
I was dreaming of the past...
Hey, Mike, thanks so much for responding...you too, Ian. Glad someone is reading what I posted....which I rarely do now.
I did end up buying the program for about the same price you did. I didn't want to start until after my test (next Friday) and then want to go at it, gangbusters.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it and gave it a 'thumbs up'.
Let's catch up over lunch next week or there after.
Regards,
Vicki
I did end up buying the program for about the same price you did. I didn't want to start until after my test (next Friday) and then want to go at it, gangbusters.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it and gave it a 'thumbs up'.
Let's catch up over lunch next week or there after.
Regards,
Vicki
"Cry in the dojo, laugh in the battlefield"
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Bill Glasheen
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Sounds good Vickie, give me a call.chef wrote:Hey, Mike, thanks so much for responding...you too, Ian. Glad someone is reading what I posted....which I rarely do now.
I did end up buying the program for about the same price you did. I didn't want to start until after my test (next Friday) and then want to go at it, gangbusters.
Glad to hear you are enjoying it and gave it a 'thumbs up'.
Let's catch up over lunch next week or there after.
Regards,
Vicki
I was dreaming of the past...
Hey, Mike, I am going to be practicing an awful lot on my own this week...got the shakes about testing alone and need to work out until I can breath and not be fearful of this.
...so if we don't end up catching up this week, then after I go through the fire.
Looking forward to chilling and just talking,
Vicki
PS I will let you know one way or the other.
...so if we don't end up catching up this week, then after I go through the fire.
Looking forward to chilling and just talking,
Vicki
PS I will let you know one way or the other.
"Cry in the dojo, laugh in the battlefield"
Good idea Vickie. I'm into the second week and W is part way through the first, like me the poor thing thought the "off" days would be easy.chef wrote:I didn't want to start until after my test (next Friday) and then want to go at it, gangbusters.
With this routine and the variety you really find out where you're not in as great as shape as you thought you were.I was dreaming of the past...
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Bill Glasheen
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The description of the collection of routines sounds intriguing.
My one reservation in getting into any of this is the following. The body has a certain amount of capacity to exercise, and that's it. Then you're supposed to rest to get the full benefits of your hard work. Insufficient rest to match intense training results in overtraining which can have myriad detrimental effects.
When I first went to John Gamble (former UVa strength coach and world heavyweight powerlifting champion) to develop a weight routine for my karate club, his first request was to get a book from me on what I did. I gave him George's Uechiryu Karatedo as a gift. Then he wanted me to write up a 12-month training program that he'd work with to balance out the various aspects of training so I had a whole program. And he was emphatic about programming in "active rest" periods and "off season" periods.
If you're doing hard training for a sport or activity, you need to deduct that physical time away from some generic training program that you're doing. If you're clever, you can look at a well-designed "complete training program" and take what's useful from it for your own training. Or maybe you can take some "off season" from whatever it is you are doing and go full bore into something different for a short spell. In any case, it's important to look at the big picture and get it all to fit together.
Martial artists have special needs. One is the need to stay flexible. Another is a need for explosiveness (anaerobic training) over endurance (aerobic training). A third is a degree of whole body coordination and core involvement that only open chain exercises can give you.
Much of what Mike and Ian say sounds interesting. It sounds worth the investigation.
Other programs by for instance Scott Sonnen are ideal because he's a martial artist and understands the job of training athletes for that venue. The thing I like about the Sonnen routines I've seen (from books and videos he was kind enough to send me) is the way he trains for both sports-specific coordination and core muscle involvement.
The thing I like about the P90x program I've heard (so far) is the limited need for (potentially expensive) special equipment. There's something to be said for being able to take your training show on the road, or do it at home with little fuss.
Lots to consider. Lots to learn. And lots of fun to be had along the way.
Bill
My one reservation in getting into any of this is the following. The body has a certain amount of capacity to exercise, and that's it. Then you're supposed to rest to get the full benefits of your hard work. Insufficient rest to match intense training results in overtraining which can have myriad detrimental effects.
When I first went to John Gamble (former UVa strength coach and world heavyweight powerlifting champion) to develop a weight routine for my karate club, his first request was to get a book from me on what I did. I gave him George's Uechiryu Karatedo as a gift. Then he wanted me to write up a 12-month training program that he'd work with to balance out the various aspects of training so I had a whole program. And he was emphatic about programming in "active rest" periods and "off season" periods.
If you're doing hard training for a sport or activity, you need to deduct that physical time away from some generic training program that you're doing. If you're clever, you can look at a well-designed "complete training program" and take what's useful from it for your own training. Or maybe you can take some "off season" from whatever it is you are doing and go full bore into something different for a short spell. In any case, it's important to look at the big picture and get it all to fit together.
Martial artists have special needs. One is the need to stay flexible. Another is a need for explosiveness (anaerobic training) over endurance (aerobic training). A third is a degree of whole body coordination and core involvement that only open chain exercises can give you.
Much of what Mike and Ian say sounds interesting. It sounds worth the investigation.
Other programs by for instance Scott Sonnen are ideal because he's a martial artist and understands the job of training athletes for that venue. The thing I like about the Sonnen routines I've seen (from books and videos he was kind enough to send me) is the way he trains for both sports-specific coordination and core muscle involvement.
The thing I like about the P90x program I've heard (so far) is the limited need for (potentially expensive) special equipment. There's something to be said for being able to take your training show on the road, or do it at home with little fuss.
Lots to consider. Lots to learn. And lots of fun to be had along the way.
Bill
Bill,
A quick rundown of a phase one week.
Chest and Back : Essentially a variety of push ups and pull up with some dumbbell work for the back.
Plyometrics
Shoulders and Arms : Lots of dumbbell work.
Yoga: About 90 minutes.
Legs and Back: More pull ups, legs are mostly body weight (add weights if needed) and plyometrics
Rest day (or stretching)
http://www.gyminee.com/workout_programs ... -Weeks-1-3
You do this for 3 weeks and then a week of rest.
After that it's onto Phase two for weeks 5,6 & 7 with week 8 being a rest week.
I haven't viewed the videos for phase 2 but here's a link to someone doing it.
http://www.gyminee.com/workout_programs ... -Weeks-5-7
In some ways it's the old Vince Gironda 21 on/7 off routine.
The plan for now is to do the 90 days and move back to a basic lifting program and rotating the yoga and plyometrics in.
A quick rundown of a phase one week.
Chest and Back : Essentially a variety of push ups and pull up with some dumbbell work for the back.
Plyometrics
Shoulders and Arms : Lots of dumbbell work.
Yoga: About 90 minutes.
Legs and Back: More pull ups, legs are mostly body weight (add weights if needed) and plyometrics
Rest day (or stretching)
http://www.gyminee.com/workout_programs ... -Weeks-1-3
You do this for 3 weeks and then a week of rest.
After that it's onto Phase two for weeks 5,6 & 7 with week 8 being a rest week.
I haven't viewed the videos for phase 2 but here's a link to someone doing it.
http://www.gyminee.com/workout_programs ... -Weeks-5-7
In some ways it's the old Vince Gironda 21 on/7 off routine.
The plan for now is to do the 90 days and move back to a basic lifting program and rotating the yoga and plyometrics in.
I was dreaming of the past...
Vicki,
From my experience it is really a great program. The layering method, programming and exercises all are pretty solid. It wasn't taken seriously in the fitness world more because of the amazing marketing to the general public than the workout/program itself.
Keep it up! I'd love to see you at our Shugyo training camp.
AM
From my experience it is really a great program. The layering method, programming and exercises all are pretty solid. It wasn't taken seriously in the fitness world more because of the amazing marketing to the general public than the workout/program itself.
Keep it up! I'd love to see you at our Shugyo training camp.
AM
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