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Even as layoffs persist, some good jobs go begging

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An interesting article on the difficulty of switching high-paying careers after being laid off, due to a mismatch between the skills needed by the high-paying fields that currently need employees and the skills of the people laid off from high-paying fields that are now in decline, combined with the length of time it takes to re-train for these jobs. Plus it points out that employers are less willing to take a risk during a recession on people trained in other fields, and thus will not hire them in to train them. Not good news for those who cannot afford to pay for re-training themselves.

For those of you in the training mode at the moment, particularly the younger set in high school or college, interprete this article as 1) an indication of what training you might want to acquire now to get a good job, and 2) the need to be aware of changing circumstances in the future so that you might get ahead of the curve when such careers-in-demand shift occur again.
Even as layoffs persist, some good jobs go begging
By CHRISTOPHER LEONARD, AP Business Writer Christopher Leonard, Ap Business Writer – Sun Oct 4, 3:53 pm ET

In a brutal job market, here's a task that might sound easy: Fill jobs in nursing, engineering and energy research that pay $55,000 to $60,000, plus benefits.

Yet even with 15 million people hunting for work, even with the unemployment rate nearing 10 percent, some employers can't find enough qualified people for good-paying career jobs.

Ask Steve Jones, a hospital recruiter in Indianapolis who's struggling to find qualified nurses, pharmacists and MRI technicians. Or Ed Baker, who's looking to hire at a U.S. Energy Department research lab in Richland, Wash., for $60,000 each.

Economists say the main problem is a mismatch between available work and people qualified to do it. Millions of jobs with attractive pay and benefits that once drew legions of workers to the auto industry, construction, Wall Street and other sectors are gone, probably for good. And those who lost those jobs generally lack the right experience for new positions popping up in health care, energy and engineering.

Many of these specialized jobs were hard to fill even before the recession. But during downturns, recruiters tend to become even choosier, less willing to take financial risks on untested workers.

The mismatch between job opening and job seeker is likely to persist even as the economy strengthens and begins to add jobs. It also will make it harder for the unemployment rate, now at 9.8 percent, to drop down to a healthier level.

"Workers are going to have to find not just a new company, but a new industry," said Sophia Koropeckyj, managing director of Moody's Economy.com. "A fifty-year-old guy who has been screwing bolts into the side of a car panel is not going to be able to become a health care administrator overnight."

It's become especially hard to find accountants, health care workers, software sales representatives, actuaries, data analysts, physical therapists and electrical engineers, labor analysts say. And employers that demand highly specialized training — like biotech firms that need plant scientists or energy companies that need geotechnical engineers to build offshore platforms — struggle even more to fill jobs.

The trend has been intensified by the speed of the job market decline, Koropeckyj said. The nation has lost a net 7.6 million jobs since the recession began in December 2007. Yet it can take a year or more for a laid-off worker to gain the training and education to switch industries. That means health care jobs are going unfilled even as laid-off workers in the auto, construction or financial services industries seek work.

"So we have this army of the unemployed" without the necessary skills, Koropeckyj said.

Sitting in his office overlooking the Clarian Health complex, Jones leafed through some of the applications he's received. One came from a hotel worker who listed his experience as, "Cleaning rooms; make beds, clean tubes, vacuum." Another was from a fitness instructor whose past duties included signing up gym members.

Many of the jobless seem to be applying for any opening they see, Jones said.

"You just don't have the supply to fill those particular positions," he said of the more than 200 "critical" jobs he needs to fill at Clarian, including nurses, pharmacists, MRI technicians and ultrasound technologists.

Contributing to the problem is that in a tough economy, employers take longer to assess applicants and make a hiring decision. By contrast, "in a healthier economy, you don't wait around for the perfect person," said Lawrence Katz, a professor of labor economics at Harvard.

To be sure, employers in most sectors of the economy are having no trouble filling jobs — especially those, like receptionists, hotel managers or retail clerks, that don't require specialized skills.

But as more jobs vanish for good, the gap between the unemployed and the requirements of today's job openings is widening. Throughout the economy, an average of six people now compete for each job opening — the highest ratio on government records dating to 2000.

Sifting through applications for jobs at the U.S. Energy Department's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Washington state, Baker said he sees "people that have worked in other areas, and now they're trying to apply that skill set to the energy arena."

"Unfortunately, that's not the skill set we need."

The jobs opened up after the lab received federal stimulus money to research energy-efficient buildings. Baker needs employees with backgrounds in city management and a grasp of the building codes needed to design energy-efficient buildings. Yet even a salary of $140,000 for senior researchers isn't drawing enough qualified applicants.

Baker said he's getting resumes from well-educated people, including some from information technology workers who want to enter the green-energy field. But he said it could take a year to get an unqualified employee up to speed on all the building codes they need to know.

"We're running out of people to train" new employees, he said. "We simply cannot attract enough (qualified) people."

The lab has hired a recruiter for the first time to fill dozens of positions. Rob Dromgoole, the recruiter, is going so far as to make cold calls to college professors. He's also visiting academic conferences to pitch jobs.

The trend has left jobseekers like Joe Sladek anxious and frustrated. Sladek's 23 years in the auto industry haven't helped his efforts to land a job in alternative energy since he was laid off a year ago.

As a quality control engineer for auto supplier Dura Automotive Systems Inc. in Mancelona, Mich., he made about $75,000. Sladek would review technical reports to make sure the factory's auto parts matched the specifications of clients like General Motors and Toyota.

He hoped to parlay that experience into a similar job at a factory making windmill blades or solar panels. Several factories were hiring, and Sladek landed a few interviews. But he never heard back.

At PricewaterhouseCoopers in Chicago, there's a shortage of qualified applicants for management jobs in tax services, auditing and consulting. Rod Adams, the company's recruiting leader, said huge pay packages on Wall Street siphoned off lots of business school graduates earlier this decade.

"That made our pipeline more scarce," he said.

Some of the openings at PricewaterhouseCoopers pay around $100,000 and don't even require graduate degrees — just specialized accounting certifications or other credentials.

Formerly successful bankers or hedge fund managers don't necessarily qualify.

"We've gotten a lot more resumes, but they haven't been the right people," Adams said.
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The problem isn't new, Glenn. And FWIW, these very fields tend to wax and wane in terms of demand. Nursing is a classic example (although they're more often in need than not).

The key for the individual is to educate themselves in a way that makes them "journeymen" in their fields. For example programmers and analysts can often jump from one industry to the next. When a merger completely wiped out IT in the organization I work with, it didn't take time for the employees to find new homes.

It is a fact of life that "retraining" will be a constant need if one wants to stay employed - particularly if you're working for someone else rather than self-employed. Things change very quickly. The trick though is figuring out what basic skills will be needed in the near future.

As for employers being even more picky, well... they can afford to be. Training costs a lot of money. Meanwhile, the supply of available hires is good.

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Bill Glasheen wrote: The key for the individual is to educate themselves in a way that makes them "journeymen" in their fields. For example programmers and analysts can often jump from one industry to the next. When a merger completely wiped out IT in the organization I work with, it didn't take time for the employees to find new homes.
While this was once true, unfortunately programmers and analysts are among the hardest hit here in the U.S. by the current recession. Those are among the positions most companies have been eliminating or sending overseas (along with call center positions), with little indication the companies will start hiring these positions again anytime soon or bring the jobs back onshore. My previous company has divested itself of a couple hundred of these positions so far this year (my position went to Ireland), and as of yet no one I know has gotten a comparable job, nor have they heard of anyone else who has. And that is with the company providing access to a contracted service that helps those laid off with application and interview skills, etc. Everyone is wondering what they will do when their unemployment runs out after a year, which for most is early next year. I took a different path and went back to graduate school full-time, but we are looking at a minimum of three years with a family of five on a greatly reduced income.

On a bit of a bright side, one former IT manager from my previous company now works in the meat department of a local grocery store and says it is nice for the discount and not having to be on-call.
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Having now gone through 3 merger/layoff scenarios (and hanging by the fingernails at this point in time), I offer this piece of advice. In addition to keeping the skill sets up at all time, I tell people there are two extremely important things they must maintain - their professional networks and their reputation. Corporations are no longer in the business of offering gold watches after a long career. They use you when they need you, and send you on your way when they don't. So it's up to the individual to be proactive and ASSUME any job they have will not last.

Bottom line - work your butt off, and maintain the contacts. As for the whole professional network thing, it's a quid pro quo proposition. In order to take, you need also to give. Be in the business of helping others when they come to you for advice and direction. Scout out who the good workers are, and find positions for them (if you can) when they are available. One day they might be in a position to return the favor.

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I know a guy who just graduated from nursing school and can't find any work. All the part time nurses went full time. Don't think he'd want to go to Indiannapolis.
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I recently read a story about this recession, and how women were faring better than men. Nursing is a great example. Given that most nurses are women... as the husbands are laid off, the wives need to go back to work full time to pay the bills.

The nursing jobs are out there. But that is a tough, 24/7 profession. Good work, good pay, and good chance of burning out. Health care is putting more and more burden on their shoulders.

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Most nursing in this area is not well-paying. It's mostly nursing homes, which are notoriously low-paying, or contractor jobs with lots of hours and no health insurance or other benefits.

Nursing is one of those jobs where there are plenty of jobs nobody wants to do. :evil: You really have to go for your masters' degree, or specialize into anesthetics, critical care, emergency, or obstetrics (and these jobs are really limited in number, and therefore heavily competitive).

However, if you can get a prison nursing job, and can tolerate an ignorant warden telling you how to do your job, you can make out like a bandit.
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ANy advice for those of us who have no trouble maintaining contacts - networking I guess is the buzzword here - but are not in a position for quid pro quo? I mean, some of us are worker bees who aren't in a position to scratch anyone's back.

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Information rules. As a PharmD, you know many of the players in your world. You can help folks looking for employment in myriad places of the system. To give an example... My spouse (an FNP) mined her pharmaceutical rep contacts to find out what doctors' offices could use her services. In exchange, she'll speak at conferences about the (appropriate) use of medications in her practice.

This goes outside of the health care world. Remember that your church and your martial arts friends are also part of your greater network. You just never know. It was almost by fluke that someone who knew someone recommended me for a position that got me in my line of work 17 years ago. And through the years, I've written many a grad, law, and med school recommendation for good karate students.

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I have worked in the Healthcare IT field for the past 21 years. While I don't always agree with all of the "Healthcare Reform" talk, the cost, etc. I will say one thing. We will be going live with our EMR/EHR this November 17th come hell or high water. We have been working on this project for about 1.5 years so we did get somewhat of a jump start on the project. It has very much been a struggle during this time to implement things but the biggest challenge will come from 'feeding' this monster that we are creating.

http://www.mobilehealthwatch.com/blog/r ... -it-talent

If you have friends or childern growing my feeling is that this is going to keep people employed for a very long time.

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After 3 months of nothing I just stated working out in C-ville and Monday I got requests to interview at three other places. Go figure.
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