I'm trying to put together some handouts for new students so they can know the names of our various weapons.
If you could help me make a complete list, I would appreciate it.
I think I have all the names for the various hand strikes/weapons, such as:
the shuto for the knife hand;
the seiken for the closed fist;
the hiraken for the four knuckle fist;
and shoken for the one knuckle fist.
I could use some help tho with the lower body weapons...
What are the weapon names for:
the toe kick (shomen geri);
the side kick (sokuto geri);
the roundhouse kick;
the knee strikes (as in seichin and seisan);
and the toe strike (as in the seichin and seirui crane block).
Thank you for your help.
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Got this link from my Sensei Rick Wilson I've found it helpful, hope you do to.
http://www.ryushinkan.bravepages.com/terminology.htm
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http://www.ryushinkan.bravepages.com/terminology.htm
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Thank you, that seems to cover most of them....
Actually it's more complete than I woud have ended up with, but it didn't seem to mention a couple things on my list...
the knee strikes (as in seichin and seisan);
and the toe strike (as in the seichin and seirui crane block).
Perhaps the toe strikes are not mentioned because many people view them as a hidden move? I guess they are "hidden" but they are also very effective against the pressure points on the top of the feet.
Actually it's more complete than I woud have ended up with, but it didn't seem to mention a couple things on my list...
the knee strikes (as in seichin and seisan);
and the toe strike (as in the seichin and seirui crane block).
Perhaps the toe strikes are not mentioned because many people view them as a hidden move? I guess they are "hidden" but they are also very effective against the pressure points on the top of the feet.
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Greetings All,
Elk, many thanks for pointing out Sensei Wilson's page. Very useful. And kudos to Sensei Wilson who shouldn't be overlooked for his part.....
Not trying to be a stick in the mud here or rehash issues that have already been discussed at length, but I wonder a lot about the absolute necessity of using japanese terminology in learning how to protect oneself (one of the largest ostensible reasons for taking karate lessons for many beginners).
Personally, Japanese culture, language, & history are all valid and important subject matter, but are they being taught in the right place, the martial arts practice hall (dojo or simply gym-which clearly does not have the same connotation)?
While English is a language that has adapted words from many languages (and thus dojo could be one of them is used often enough), it is clearly the primary language in use in this country.
One small point, suppose I am teaching a martial arts class in southern Cali, where many students are still trying to learn English, should I also put pressure on these folks to be learning japanese in addition (recognizing that there is a significant japanese minority community here, but not much compared to the hispanic, philopino, korean, vietnamese, Iranian, & Armenian communities, among others).
Along a different line of logic is the notion that while much of the influnece in our art comes from China originally, very little credit seems to go to the chinese as we spend very little time learning Chinese words. Isn't that a blatant disresepct for their culture by failing to recognize the Chinese roots to our style?
Just wondering.........
ATH
Elk, many thanks for pointing out Sensei Wilson's page. Very useful. And kudos to Sensei Wilson who shouldn't be overlooked for his part.....
Not trying to be a stick in the mud here or rehash issues that have already been discussed at length, but I wonder a lot about the absolute necessity of using japanese terminology in learning how to protect oneself (one of the largest ostensible reasons for taking karate lessons for many beginners).
Personally, Japanese culture, language, & history are all valid and important subject matter, but are they being taught in the right place, the martial arts practice hall (dojo or simply gym-which clearly does not have the same connotation)?
While English is a language that has adapted words from many languages (and thus dojo could be one of them is used often enough), it is clearly the primary language in use in this country.
One small point, suppose I am teaching a martial arts class in southern Cali, where many students are still trying to learn English, should I also put pressure on these folks to be learning japanese in addition (recognizing that there is a significant japanese minority community here, but not much compared to the hispanic, philopino, korean, vietnamese, Iranian, & Armenian communities, among others).
Along a different line of logic is the notion that while much of the influnece in our art comes from China originally, very little credit seems to go to the chinese as we spend very little time learning Chinese words. Isn't that a blatant disresepct for their culture by failing to recognize the Chinese roots to our style?
Just wondering.........
ATH
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Knee Strike: Hiza Geri (lit: Knee Kick). It's on Mr. Wilson's list.
Your super-duper toe kick, Rick? Since "Tate" is "vertical", maybe "tate sokusen geri"? This is a guess.
Do you have Gary Khoury's "Japanese for the Uechi Dojo" CD? It's excellent, contains much of what you need and is a keeper!. It's available from the on-line store on these pages.
May I suggest another option? George Donahue, an expert in these things who used to moderate a now closed forum on these boards, posted a listing of the transliterations of some Uechi weapons, such as:
Seiken: Normal Fist
Hiraken: Flat Fist
Shoken: Single Fist
He also posted one for "Bushiken", which I've since forgotten. Since the forum is closed, the pages are unavailable. Maybe we can get him to post another list here?
"Front kick" is usually called "shomen geri" or "mae geri". The Uechi-Ryu distinctive toe kick is called "sokusen geri" (lit: tip of the foot kick). This is the term I prefer, personally. One can use a Shomen Geri without kicking with the toes; and one can use a "sokusen geri" wihtout using a front kick.
The Uechi Ryu "side kick", a la Kanshiwa, is called "sokuto geri", transliterating into "blade of the foot kick". This more apt describes the kick, instead of "side kick".
It is my firm belief that proper understanding and comprehension of the Japanese lexicon is esential to proper understanding and training in Karate-Do. Many (if not all) of the names and terms used are descriptive names, and provide an insight nto the proper mechanics and concept of the technique. We aren't trying to unculcate students into the Japanese culture; but we're using those elements from Japanese hsitory and society to provide a more intellectual and comprehenseive understanding of karate-do; which can't happen by just commanding, "punch" and "kick" in class.
Good luck with your list, and there are plenty of reliable sources out there.
Gene
Your super-duper toe kick, Rick? Since "Tate" is "vertical", maybe "tate sokusen geri"? This is a guess.
Do you have Gary Khoury's "Japanese for the Uechi Dojo" CD? It's excellent, contains much of what you need and is a keeper!. It's available from the on-line store on these pages.
May I suggest another option? George Donahue, an expert in these things who used to moderate a now closed forum on these boards, posted a listing of the transliterations of some Uechi weapons, such as:
Seiken: Normal Fist
Hiraken: Flat Fist
Shoken: Single Fist
He also posted one for "Bushiken", which I've since forgotten. Since the forum is closed, the pages are unavailable. Maybe we can get him to post another list here?
"Front kick" is usually called "shomen geri" or "mae geri". The Uechi-Ryu distinctive toe kick is called "sokusen geri" (lit: tip of the foot kick). This is the term I prefer, personally. One can use a Shomen Geri without kicking with the toes; and one can use a "sokusen geri" wihtout using a front kick.
The Uechi Ryu "side kick", a la Kanshiwa, is called "sokuto geri", transliterating into "blade of the foot kick". This more apt describes the kick, instead of "side kick".
It is my firm belief that proper understanding and comprehension of the Japanese lexicon is esential to proper understanding and training in Karate-Do. Many (if not all) of the names and terms used are descriptive names, and provide an insight nto the proper mechanics and concept of the technique. We aren't trying to unculcate students into the Japanese culture; but we're using those elements from Japanese hsitory and society to provide a more intellectual and comprehenseive understanding of karate-do; which can't happen by just commanding, "punch" and "kick" in class.
Good luck with your list, and there are plenty of reliable sources out there.
Gene
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