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I'm not sure I'd want the teacher doing this to my kid.. but then I'd like to think my kid will know better in the first place.
More than 40 relatives of children in Thomas' class have asked for her to be reinstated.



http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040611_307.html

N.Y. Teacher on Leave for Soapy Punishment
Teacher in Rochester, N.Y., Suspended for Washing Student's Mouth Out With Soap After Obscenity


The Associated Press



ROCHESTER, N.Y. June 11, 2004 — An elementary school teacher was placed on paid leave for washing a boy's mouth out with soap after he shouted an obscenity at a classmate.
Lori Thomas, 48, who has taught for six years at inner-city School 22, said she was stunned when a 10-year-old boy directed "a vile, very nasty sexual reference" at a third-grade girl in March.



Thomas said she didn't want the boy, who had frequently been sent home for unruly behavior, to earn another one-week suspension.

She took the boy to the nurse's office, she said, "put a drop of soap of his lower lip, washed it out immediately and told him I never wanted to hear filth like that coming out of his mouth again."

"Old-fashioned ways work," she said unapologetically.

The boy behaved for the remainder of the day and didn't complain to his foster mother, Thomas said. The boy's brother told district officials what had happened, she said.

Thomas was suspended indefinitely. The district could either fire Thomas even though tenure provides such teachers "a lot of protection" or level "a lesser amount of discipline," said Joanne Giuffrida, personnel chief in the 6,000-employee school district.

"I wish we could have handled this more expeditiously too," Giuffrida said. She said an investigation will likely be completed within two weeks.

More than 40 relatives of children in Thomas' class have asked for her to be reinstated.
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Interesting..

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I'll have to comment on the punishment methods used by the Catholic Nun's in grade school back in the 40s and 50s.

Hell, I'd prefer soap to the other punishments. :)

Back then, the priests were used for the really "heavy" punishment.

Although a bit severe, I don't remember anyone being killed or becoming emotionally damanged from physical punishment.

There was a kind of "closure" following the punishment. Unlike what the kids get today.
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Soap in the mouth was the standard punishment for cursing when I was a lad. Ivory bar soap, to be exact. It kept my mouth clean until I got out of the house...

I use the same punishment on my own sons today. My wife thinks it's child abuse, and I suppose there are liberal activists who might take exception to what I do and send social services out to my home. But you know what? It works. And it's a punishment that fits the crime like a glove.

Boys will be boys. It's natural for them to express "potty mouth." It's up to the parents to modify the behavior to what they desire.

I can understand parents having reservations about others delivering corporal punishment, and I am aware that schools and daycares today have zero tolerance policies on such issues. And the same goes for children in karate dojos. Fine... Children's health and wellbeing come first.

However my response to many of the questionable policies that exist in schools today is "Show me the data..." Often it doesn't exist. And my response is then "Shame on you!" Are we better off today? Are children better behaved? Are fewer going to prison? Are fewer kids making it to adulthood without getting pregnant (with or without abortions)? Are children growing up to be adults who are more effective communicators? Do we have fewer "abusers" today because fewer experienced corporal punishment as children?

If we can't say yes to these questions, then...

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A small amount of black pepper on the tip of the tongue works too.
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