Jack of all trades began when one apprenticed to a Master under the Guild system which when one couldn't fulfill the obligatory routines, one went to another guild or did something else. No one became a master of such until years later, if at all. Trying to apply this notion to martial arts is not exactly accurate, since you will find many Chinese Masters, Japanese Masters, and so forth actually learning from a variety of sources and systems. One has only to look at many of the so-called 'classical' schools of weaponry to see such. Today's martial artist is a jack of all arts, and possibly master of none, but we do see some with many degrees and belts in various arts,even if self-appointed or self-recognized! Anyway, there will always be those who want to keep a steady course in life and in a specific martial art or style or system in particular,often entering into a cult status,whereas others will pick and choose,hunt and peck, at life and martial arts.
section on Bruce Tegner only just now! I was too caught up with the others and especially the many books there long out of print for the most part. It is worth a look. To see the website with Tegner go to http://www.sandowplus.co.uk/competition ... -intro.htm Somewhere among my things in the Philippines, I have some correspondence with the late Bruce Tegner and others connected with him,perhaps Bantam Books. Can't recall much about them at the moment. [/u]
and related topics that might be or interest to members of the forum.I will post it later when I have a chance. Have to dash now. But I have to say there are an enormous amount of sites referring to Bruce Tegner books on the internet and some are in rare book sections of groups even! More later and also on the DVD with Tegner,etc.
In searching about the internet, I found that Bruce Tegner's early books are shown on the website of the Hawaii Karate Museum in the bibliography section, which goes by years. There are also listings shown for years from 1920 to the present, and the covers are also shown and you can enlargen them if necessary. Go to http://museum.hikari.us/ Let me know your comments on this. Thanks,Halford at http://arnis.homestead.com
Hi Hal,
I still have Bruce Tegner's Karate book..I bought it as a young lad studying Jiu Jitsu. I also have "vital karate" by Mas Oyama, and a knife fighting book by Echanis ( the one with the black cover).
My oldest book is Jiu Jitsu by Kiyose Nakay...
Be interested to hear anything more that you know about Tegner.if he's still alive etc...this kinda stuff fascinates me
because I think it is mentioned here, and I think I did on an earlier post, that Bruce Tegner is dead. The sites on the internet that you can find that deal with him, don't give an exact date for his demise. He gained considerable weight in later years as his photos will attest but he also took up backpacking and hiking,etc. Yes, the books are still being published and some are collector's items. Keep your books as they will have value over the years, despite reprints,unless you care to donate them to the Hawaii Karate Museum! Nakae's jiujitsu book is a classic. He taught in NYC for years before he passed away. I try to find books published prior to 1960 as they are of more value,unless they are the massive, expensive, one-of-a-kind books by a great master,etc. I have nearly all of Tegner's books,save a few that escaped me. Halford at http://arnis.homestead.com
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Bruce Tegner was filmed and then a video came out on him,a rough copy of which I have that was given to me by an avid collector. It is now out on DVD as well as VHS and can be found on Amazon or other film/video sources. The title of the DVD is: EARLY AMERICAN JUDO & JUJITSU and sells for $29.95 and is narrated and probably edited by Damon G. Clemens. I have to say that there are some interesting pictures(stills) also shown on this film and should dispell the notion that Tegner was inept,a charlatan, and so forth if you look at the thing objectively,etc. Good viewing! Bon appetit !
I just put in my two cents worthabout Bruce Tegner on VanCanna's forum. So please go there and read all the postings there. Well, worth the extra trip! Halford at http://arnis.homestead.com
the Hawaii Karate Museum Website at http://museum.hikari.us/ There are a lot of early, rare karate and martial arts books shown there(covers,etc.) and you might consider donating some karate,etc. books and magazines to it by culling out any you don't really want and sending them there. Thanks for your time.
I'm sorry to come in on this subject after so long, but i just discovered this forum and thread. My name is Bob Rosenbaum, and I'm a black belt in Jukado self defense teaching from Bruce Tegner, I would like to address the thought that Bruce Tegner was a dabbler in martial arts/self defense and not knowledgeable in what he wrote about. But Bruce's training was in the old style judo/jiu jitsu, this was before there were a million different arts, on every street corner. What Bruce knew was judo, where he was a second Dan. but this training included the old style jui jitsu, think holds and locks and chokes, this also covered atemi waza, striking and kicking, and nerve centers, think karate, And what is now known as hand to hand or close quarters combat. He was also taught the traditional weapons of eastern martial arts, yawara, BO, jodo stick, knife methods, PLUS Bruce thought out of the box/how can i improve what i know, not just my teacher said, so it must be so. As far as the Aikido and Gung fu books, they were done by those with rank in those arts. The Aikido by Augusto Lodi (spelling?), and the Gung Fu by one of Bruce's students, Dr. Val Christenson who after earning rank with Bruce went on to train with Ark Yee Wong (spelling?), the gung fu book was not meant to make masters of any one but to give the public a view of what at that time was still a deep secret to the outside world.
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Bob Rosenbaum
TOTAL COMMITMENT.
I believe I have mentioned this at least once before that there is a video out that shows Bruce and his mother doing judo and jiujitsu self-defense plus some background material,etc. that is narrated. It should dispell the notion that Bruce Tegner was a charlatan that was put forth by a very prominent karate-ka well known to all who use these forums! He knows, of course, who he is. I am not sure if he has since then changed his views. He is/was author of an early book so- to- speak. Bruce Tegner's name keeps cropping up from time to time and on the Modern Arnis Coalition forum a day or two it did under the topic DVD which was about Philippine bolos.
Jack of all trades began when one apprenticed to a Master under the Guild system which when one couldn't fulfill the obligatory routines, one went to another guild or did something else. No one became a master of such until years later, if at all. Trying to apply this notion to martial arts is not exactly accurate, since you will find many Chinese Masters, Japanese Masters, and so forth actually learning from a variety of sources and systems. One has only to look at many of the so-called 'classical' schools of weaponry to see such. Today's martial artist is a jack of all arts, and possibly master of none, but we do see some with many degrees and belts in various arts,even if self-appointed or self-recognized! Anyway, there will always be those who want to keep a steady course in life and in a specific martial art or style or system in particular,often entering into a cult status,whereas others will pick and choose,hunt and peck, at life and martial arts. 
