The emotionally hijacked fist

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f.Channell
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Post by f.Channell »

I had 3 older brothers and losing my temper on them growing up meant I was going to be tortured and slamdunked.
So I learned to keep my anger in check and wait till they went to bed.......
Then the fun and games would begin. :twisted:
I still can wait and get even, it's my preferred method.

As far as conditioning the hand, I just put up a makiwara in my backyard.
Beautiful cedar cut sloping to 3/4" on top from the base.
I recommend everyone have one.
If I get mad and run out in my backyard to hit it, by the time I got there I imagine I would feel better.

I dislocated my pinky a few years ago and had to go to a hand specialist in Boston. The nurse startled me by talking about different styles to the point where I asked where she trained. She said she didn't, but she got in a half dozen martial artists with broken hands a week!! She had learned the lingo as it were.

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Post by Dana Sheets »

have you ever been trying to have a student punch correct form- and not be able to correctly make a fist and say hit a bag-

due to an emotional problem-
I have seen students who took alot of coaching to get to the point where they could do more than lightly touch a bag or a person without apologizing. It's important to remember that your body won't let you hit hard with a weapon it doesn't trust unless you're so emotionally cranked up you override your common sense.

So many women and some men struggle to hit with a closed fist because they've never hit anything with one before in their entire lives. I have these students start by slapping things with an open hand. It builds their confidence in their ability to strike.

Then we usually have them make whatever fist they're supposed to be using and lean their weight into it against a wall. They need to learn how to line up their bones & tendons to make the fist strong.

During an intense training session that involved groundwork I witnessed a woman break into tears because of the position attacker to her. So it's no real surprise that somone would have a strong emotional reponse to most anything if they've associated it to a difficult situation.
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WOMEN AND FIST FORMATION

Post by HALFORD E. JONES »

:D This topic usually deals with the fact that women tend to wear their fingernails longer than men and,hence, cannot form a fist without jabbing their palms with their nails. Also, Women tend to view their hands as softer than men's,with some exceptions, of course. Women are more apt to choose a frying pan, roller pin, carving knife, etc. when trying to hit someone or throw dishes,etc. the stereotypical response found in a lot of comic strips years ago. :wink:
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Post by Van Canna »

I really don't see us teaching women to hit with their fist after all. And men for that matter.

The fist will get one into trouble more often than not.

Thus the reason why it is not in Uechi's big three.

The palm heel is a weapon that can be more effective for defensive use, along with other Uechi weapons _ such as the shoken if directed at soft targets.

The boshiken is another.


So far for "physical weapons" then the "mind weapon" needs lots of work, in men and women.
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Post by KerryM »

WOW what excellent training techs for something like that Dana thank you!

I'm going to do some of that just for me- but WOW that is just awesome- I'm excited now lol

(p.s. I gave up wearing nails a long time ago but not because of this but because they aren't practical when using a computer as often as I do- and I think that a lot of people might have that same issue- but I HAVE seen some "nail-art" you just wouldn't believe! :) )


I have to agree as well with Sensei C because if you have to use a fist- you've already lost the fight basicaly-

Now that I'm teaching- though I've worked through a great deal of my own emotional "crap" I wasn't sure how to approach "other-people's" emotional crap respectfuly as well as helpfully- if that makes sense-

I mean without turning the conversation into a philosophical emotional pick-me-up at the same time you know?

Good topic :)

Kerry
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