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The emotionally hijacked fist

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How relevant can I possibly make this? How stupid does this look? And yet there are a good number of you folks out there happily training away for your match o' doom, convinced that your mighty fist will slay your evil tormentor.

Before I go on, I need to engage in a little bit of disclosure. I've never hid my loathing of The Yankees, or any other team (such as Notre Dame) that attempts to characterize itself as "America's team" and/or buy their way to championships and titles. But I digress..
Bad news, times two

Brown breaks hand after Orioles knock off struggling Yankees

Posted: Friday September 3, 2004 10:21PM; Updated: Saturday September 4, 2004 12:28AM

NEW YORK (AP) -- Kevin Brown's frustrating season finally reached a boiling point, and now his hot temper could cost the New York Yankees at the most important time.

Brown broke his non-pitching hand when he punched a wall in the clubhouse Friday night during a 3-1 loss to the Baltimore Orioles that cut New York's lead in the AL East to just 2 1/2 games over Boston.

"Stupidity," Brown said, choosing his words carefully.

"I reacted to frustration I'd swallowed all year. ... There are no excuses. I let it boil over and I did something stupid. I owe my teammates an apology for letting my emotions take over like that."

Already short on starting pitching, the Yankees were unsure how long the 39-year-old right-hander might be out.

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This reminds me of an incident in my fraternity house years back, one that plays itself out again and again every drunken weekend. One of my fraternity brothers attempts to show off by punching out a window pane. He succeeds in doing so, and also in turning his fist into a bloody mess. Another frat brother comes up and says "You stupid dummy, this is how you do it." He proceeds to punch another pane out, only to turn his fist into a bloody mess. Both spent the rest of the night in the emergency room with serious damage to their hands.

Boxing is a sport, ladies and gentlemen, where the participants wrap their hands up and then cover them with protective gloves. Even in the UFC, the strikers protect their hands. This doesn't happen in the street.

Mind you, years of sport training have made my hand find noses like a heat seeking missile finds a jet engine. Old habits die hard. Fortunately I am learning both good Uechi weapons and where/how to use them.
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Acquired from Los Angeles last offseason, the oft-injured Brown missed seven weeks in June and July with a strained lower back and intestinal parasite. He tweaked his knee while covering first base on an awkward play in the fifth inning Friday, then was hit on the right forearm by Miguel Tejada's RBI single in the sixth.

Steamed by it all, he walked around the clubhouse in the middle of the sixth and punched a wall, breaking two bones in his left hand.

That was the end of his night.

"You just can't do this, there's no doubt about it. You've got to keep your emotions in check," general manager Brian Cashman said. "It's a major issue that we shouldn't be dealing with. It's a problem."

Cashman and Yankees manger Joe Torre were visibly annoyed. Cashman said Brown could be disciplined or fined. Torre said he spoke to Brown and expressed his disappointment.

"Certainly uncalled for and unnecessary," Torre said. "There's more to this game than one person. We rely on him a great deal. It's not something that's helping the team, obviously."

After the game, the Yankees began reviewing Brown's contract to determine whether a self-inflicted injury could void the guarantee language, one baseball official said on the condition of anonymity. No determination had been made, the official said.

Brown is earning $15 million this season and is due $15 million next year, the final season of his $105 million, seven-year deal.

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Talk about stupidity... Talk about having financial insult added to injury...
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He is not the first player to hurt himself in anger. Cardinals closer Jason Isringhausen broke his right wrist punching a garbage can while on a minor league rehab assignment with the Mets in 1997. St. Louis reliever Mike Matthews dislocated a bone in his pitching hand in 2000 when he punched the dugout bench in frustration.

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Meanwhile, the red hot Red Sox have gone from about 12 games behind to just 2.5 behind "The Evil Empire." And the Red Sox clearly have the momentum in The American League.

If my Bosox make it to the World Series this year, I'll have at least two reasons to think the right thing happened.

- Bill

Original article can be found at SI.com
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good post

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i'm hoping the red sox get those yankees too bill and i'm not a fan of teams that claim America or buy championships either.Funny, I also had a friend years ago that punched out a window in a college dorm room and also only succeeded in making his hand a bloody mess with a nice long scar to always remember this time by..Have to be honest i know the guy was mad when he did it but even as a friend and a good friend of his i was thinking to myself now how darn dumb was what he just did? I knew the answer was very dumb but some some guys just never learn and he was a great guy but not much on learning so he bares the scar and the window broke but a broken window and a scarred hand to me didn't make much sense.whatever he thought he accomplished i have no idea but he was drunk which is no excuse but alcohol abuse and good decision making don't really blend together very well..i guess bars and scars will always go hand and hand though lol..

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Excellent thread

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Unfortunately this kind of behaviour is very common in men, and in all walks of life.

We often see it in the world around us. For example in road rage: we've seen apparently sane and rational people do the most appalling and dangerous things on the roads at trivial provocation, and spend the rest of their lives in a wheel chair.

And we've seen people injure themselves by punching walls and smashing windows in their rage.

In this case Brown was just looking for the hole in his head on the other side of the wall , just like the Summer camp punks were on the other side of the glass panes_ a few years back, and they did find it after all.

Why don't women indulge in this type of behavior?
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I have punched things in anger/frustration. (I once starred the windshield of my car when I was upset by a doctor's response while on my cell phone. Didn't even bruise my hand - but I sure felt the pain in my wallet when I had to replace it! 8O ) I've also hit things but not with a closed fist. I have cried in anger, shouted in anger, thrown things in anger, drunken away my anger, curled up in a ball on my bed in anger, paced in anger...

Anger often wells up when we want action or an outcome but can't see a way to make it happen. I don't know if I'm going to be mad or sad when that happens. Sometimes I'm able to tell myself that the situation isn't worth what I'm feeling and can let it go.

Do men really punch things in anger more than women or do men simply remember the angry outbursts that end in punching because usually nothing good comes of punching?
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Dana

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You are a fiery blooded pocket rocket. :D
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Dana, I think men and women have an equal prevelance of anger management issues. They probably express it a bit differently.

Boxing is a man's sport (until recently), and American men identify with it. The fantasy expresses itself in unfortunate ways when experiencing a severe case of emotional hijacking.

Van makes a good point though about other self destructive behaviors. And it really doesn't take much in terms of mindset to change how we channel those emotions. For example I used to feed into the road rage as a younger man, whereas now I can step outside myself and see the futility/stupidity of it all. A sense of humor is a wonderfully constructive antidiote. One of the best things I ever taught myself to do is to wave like a smiling idiot at someone honking at me in rage. It is a most disarming behavior, and leaves the enraged driver temporarily stunned. Bottom line - it works.

BTW, I didn't know you had it in you, Dana! You are the most well-composed person I've met in public. I only see that beast when you step into the phone booth and become SuperUechika! :lol: But then we all save our worst moments for home and in private I guess. I believe this is one good reason why spouses don't have to testify against you in court. ;)

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I think the first few times I was really, violently angry I hit things ... and learned I felt stupid afterward, or very regretful. I broke a wonderful chiminea roof when throwing something in a fit of anger. :oops: I still haven't replaced it, though it's been almost a decade. It serves as a reminder (and it still works, though it's not as pretty).

Maybe part of the reason some folks continue to hit and throw and go into screaming fits is because it relieves pressure and/or gets them attention. Then, one day, it goes too far and oops, you've broken your hand. Tough break. Literally.

I've subverted by temper into fuming. Lasts longer, kind of like spreading the spike out flat. Also, I don't get angry about the same things, and I also use humor to let off the steam out of the boiler. Nothing like looking around you on a freeway and realize you're surrounded by primates (some more evolved than others) operating 2000 lbs. of machinery or more stooped over their wheels and grimacing like it all matters. Ooo ooo ooo eee eee eee! I'm such a cool gorilla in my air-conditioned car, slave to the same chemical cocktail as a chimpanzee trying to establish dominance. Yee ha, ride 'em Cheetah!

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great points

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I also think finding humor is a great solution to anger.but I have to admit my old girlfriend and I used to get into some terrible arguements over silly things and on more then one occassion just to be stupid and let off steam i'd leave and just rip my rear view mirror off or something dumb and have to glue it back on later lol..But i have to admit and this is true I think on many occassions after the fact the girlfriend and I would find some common ground and laugh and manking up is so much better and what a way to let off steam while we're on the subject lol I guess like they say all you need is love lol I think it's the ultimate in tension and stress relief to have a good woman in your life lol unfortunately i'm single now lol so it's back to rear view mirrors i guess for a while longer lol

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HITTING THE WALL WITH THE FIST IS A SIGN OF DISPLACED

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AGGRESSION, which,if not done this way, would perhaps lead to violence against a person. Suicide,when looked at this way, is self-aggression or aggression turned onto ones elf. Kicking an animate(dog) or inanimate(wall) seems preferable to many than killing someone. Self-injury is nearly always aggression turned inward. IN some views, martyrdom is self-aggression,whether performed by Christians or Muslims or others. I know many, if not most, of your may not agree with this. :wink: Ritualized suicide is the same thing. The shame one feels for such a breach of etiquette is so intense that one can only destroy oneself. :wink:
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very valid in my opinion

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before i found Uechi and in my earlier years i knew deep down that i was a good person but sometimes it's hard to see the good in yourself that others see in you and I agree with Halford also I do think it's much more dangerous not to vent in some form even if it's hitting a wall at least a wall has no life to be taken from it and it will be able to be repaired..I think this was a very important point to make especailly if younger people see this thread to know it's ok to feel out of place at times and everyone does until they find meaning in their life so it's important to talk and vent and yes even hit a wall before injuring themselves or another person god forbid that from happening..so yes feeling a void at times and being angry can be replaced by lasting happiness and fulfillment when you find the right things and you will if you keep looking much like the wall these things are able to be repaired but if anger and emptiness are allowed to win and someone hurts another person or themselves then there is no repairing or turning back and this can scar families for life so i look at it this way much like you would never point a gun at something you could not replace never hit or hurt something that you could not make whole again cause this choice is always a mistake..stop take some breaths and think about others who love you and not yourself and your problems for once and say ya know what it isn't so bad and i'm going to crawl through this river of garbage and come out gold on the other side..you'll be happy you did thanks Halford I agree with this very strong point you made..

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Post by 2Green »

Equinamity is also a wonderful way to approach life.
I've had people say to me "Karate must be a great way to blow off stress!", but truthfully, I find it gives me a calm attitude that really doesn't let me accumulate stress in the first place.
Maybe it's just because I'm older too, and like Bill Glasheen said, not getting caught up in useless conflicts?

Actively trying to practice equanamity also helps prevent getting caught up in other's panics which they are trying to unload on you. It puts a buffer between their excited outbursts or mental coercions, and allows you to evaluate rather than just react. This makes one less likely to get caught up in their game.

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hi again

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Hello there strangers :)

Durring this past summer I was at an "Old Home Day" celebration in New England where they were having a "kempo" demonstration-

The Sensei- who was a woman- was demonstrating how neat it was to break boards with your hands-

Unfortunately durring her demonstration she proceeded to break her hand-

Sometimes you don't even have to be angry to hit things and hurt yourselves.

reminds me of the quote-

"Mr. Miagi- can you do that?" Daniel-son asks his Sensei in the Karate Kid pt 2 - standing in front of a poster advertising another karate Sensei proudly breaking in half a large tree trunk

Mr. Miagi responds "don' know- never been attacked by tree"

love that-

as much as the sound of breaking glass and apparently bones can be appreciated- isn't it kind of the point to learn your karate on the "inside" as well as on the outside so as not to feel the need to hit things that can't hit back - or in the first place?

just thoughts :)

at the same time I do understand that the breaking of boards n bats n other things can be an excellent conditioning tool-

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Post by KerryM »

*meant no offense to anyone who has ever hit something in or out of anger though* lol

Have other Sensei's found that students "might have" an actual "fist-deformation" (is that a word? lol) because inside themselves they are afriad of hitting something and causing real damage-

despite the fact that they are in karate-

Is there any specific teaching technique to help someone with a problem like that-

:)

Thanks
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Post by Bill Glasheen »

Kerry

Good to hear from you.

First...breaking things (boards and bats) really isn't a conditioning tool. In fact as far as conditioning tools, I give it a negative score. Conditioning tools and methods should not involve hitting or being hit with things that have no "give."

This breaking inanimate things is supposed to be an index of one's ability to break "animate" things. It was popular once upon a time, when people had no idea what karate was all about. Past a point, however, it's a waste of time, unless you think you are going to get a few more students to sign up after the demo.

As for your question, I'm not sure I understand it. Could you please explain a little more?

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Post by KerryM »

hee hee I should have said that I was thinking at least of the bat with rolling it up and down the leg-

but you are very right-

my question was more of an emotional nature-

have you ever been trying to have a student punch correct form- and not be able to correctly make a fist and say hit a bag-

due to an emotional problem-

and if so-

how did you work with that? :)

(just curious- the topic inspired the question) :)

Thanks- I'm around but not always posting :)

Good to see you too!

Kerry
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