Chink in the Armor

Mills75 · Post by **Mills75** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:10 am

That looks like one heck of a nice training facility Tony! Are you preparing to go into the ring Tony or are you just training to learn the the ins and outs of boxing? I never asked you so I'm curious as to whether you're preparing to go into like matches or anything?

What do you guys do there on a regular basis?

Jeff

Mills75 · Post by **Mills75** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:12 am

Thanks Tony I really hope I get the chance to meet him because that would really be a great honor and a lasting memory for me. Thanks for the picture and the website. I have to go to the site and look it over. I find this guy very interesting and I have a lot of respect for him.

Thanks,
Jeff

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:18 am

Jeff, i'm just learning some new moves, getting a little sparring in and basically getting back in shape. I don't have any delusions about being a great boxer one day, or the world champ. lets face it, i'm almost 40 years old. I'm lucky I still can take a schit on schedule!

Jack Sommers is a great guy and an awesome teacher. I've been lucky enough to train with him several times as he comes to Florida often. unfortunatley, the group I was with doesn't seem to like me much anymore (probably because I think their shokens are gay) so I won't get to see Jack anytime soon.

As far as the training facility goes, thats an old book man. That now belongs exclusively to the Sea Hag of Indialantic (my ex).

f.Channell · Post by **f.Channell** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:20 am

Hey Jeff,
What you waiting for?
Get on up here to Uechi Nirvana and train with Jack Sensei. While in town visit Van, and everyone else.
I could easily plan out a "Jeff's excellent adventure" for you.
http://www.uechi-ryu.com/forums/viewtop ... bd7572edd2

Jack Summers is the original Uechi "cross trainer" with his skills in Jujitsu and Uechi. Look in the "red book" for his contributions with grappling techniques.

Also a great war hero we can all be proud of.

F.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:24 am

Thats right! Jack is a WWII Vet! You cannot be held in higher regard in my world. WWII Vets are my own heros!

Mills75 · Post by **Mills75** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:32 am

That's great Fred and I do hope to make it around here one of these days and visit some folks. Yeah I heard about Mr. Summers being a war hero also and he is the original deal with all his skills in boxing and ju jitsu. I have to meet the guy one of these days is all I know and I sure hope I get too. That kind of experience can't be replaced.

And Tony I bet you'd do just fine in the ring though and 40 isn't old man. That's cool though that you're training in boxing and gathering all that experience in. That looks like a great place to train also so my best.

Jeff

f.Channell · Post by **f.Channell** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:46 am

Tony,

I'm 41 and let me tell you it's freaking old.

I get in the ring with 20 year olds in Judo and I tell you it's not fun at all realizing how old you really are.

F.

Mills75 · Post by **Mills75** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:41 am

I was sitting here for a bit thinking Tony Licalzi now where in the heck did I here that name before. I know you as the bronze dago and as Tony but never knew what your last name was until tonight when you showed me the pics of Mr. Summers visiting the garage.

Then it hit me and I was like OH...Tony Licalzi is the dude I always watched on the clips when I first came to this website and started at my dojo I used to come and watch you do kata demonstrations on the video section of this website. I always enjoyed them and still watch them from time to time and I was always impressed by the power and the whipping snap you had in all your techniques.

Yeah I just realized where I knew that name from because I read it so many times before when I first started in Uechi and came here to watch your kanshiwa and other kata clips.Wow that's cool. So he is you and you are him and now I got it straight lol..I knew I recognized that name.

Jeff

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 am

Mills75 wrote:your kanshiwa and other kata clips.Wow that's cool. So he is you and you are him and now I got it straight lol..I knew I recognized that name.

Jeff

Coo Coo KA CHOO!

Stryke · Post by **Stryke** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:48 am

These days, there are a lot of sport fighters who are "mixed." It's difficult to peg anyone these days. Just what is Joe Pomfret, with his Uechi and BJJ training?

I`m guessing Joes not a guy who`s going to rely on shokening folks in the heart . I think it`s a great mix Uechi and BJJ , where did Joe get the great round house kick ? .

as for the cartilage into the brain ....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:00 am

Mills75 wrote: And Tony I bet you'd do just fine in the ring though and 40 isn't old man. That's cool though that you're training in boxing and gathering all that experience in. That looks like a great place to train also so my best.

Jeff

I've actually been doing ok. My technique isn't bad, I learned some good basics already from Uechi guys like Raffi, and David Moy. i'm a little robotic from all that "Sanchiny" stuff (you gotta move that body in boxing man, else you're gonna get nailed and these guys hit hard), but i'm starting to get a groove going with rythym and all that. It's the endurance thing that's killing me! I do ok in a single round, but after that, I can scary tired, like i'm gonna past out. I've been running so I give it a couple months and I should be able to start pushing my endurance up a notch at a time. Right now i'm just working it right where it is.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:04 am

Stryke wrote: as for the cartilage into the brain ....

*UGH* what a pipe dream...

Where do these people get these insane ideas??? God help this guy John if he ever gets in a jam and has to open a can of whoop-ass. He's gonna be really surprised when his super-duper black belt techniques are worthless and he has to revert to his white belt techniques to get the job done, if he even manages to get that far.

Chris H. · Post by **Chris H.** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:45 am

Quote:
"John, if you studied karate for as long ago as when Tosh was in Florida then you should have developed the power in your kicks by now to "break a boxers legs" without having to make a point "

Tony, Thanks for mentioning Sensei Tosh. We have pictures all over the Dojo of him. From the stories we have been told I am sorry I never got a chance to meet or train with him.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:10 pm

I've heard alot about him too. The Indian Harbour Beach group (my old group) was aligned with him years ago and the guys used to tell me stories about him. Aside from being a seriously bad-ass karate dude, he was quite a charachter as well!

Rick Wilson · Post by **Rick Wilson** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:16 pm

Uechi is great so please don’t get me wrong but the questions Bill asks are the ones that will determine the outcome:

“
* What 2 individuals are you talking about? Is it an aging Uechi health-club practitioner vs. the WBA heavyweight boxing champion? Is it a kid who just started boxing vs. Ric Martin?

* What equipment will be used?

* What rules will there be? Is this sport or street?”

And I would add one more:

“What is their training?”

For example a good hard “test” (sorry George) in Sanchin usually involves hard body shots straight on to the stomach area where the body accepts them best. It is often a shock to Uechi folk whose body conditioning consists of this training to step into our conditioning circle where we angle strikes to the ribs, solar plexus etc. And let me tell you that an uppercut to the solar plexus is a very different hit than a straight shot to the stomach.

So what training the person has had comes into it as well.

But as Bill stated – it will always come done to the person.

…and the rules.

…and the equipment.

…and the training.

Chink in the Armor

Cool Tony

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