Chink in the Armor

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JimHawkins
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What's the point of comparing 'great kickers' with those who don't kick?

Please enlighten me...

Why not compare apples with apples and compare your Uechi 'icons' with kickboxers??
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JimHawkins wrote:What's the point of comparing 'great kickers' with those who don't kick?
Well it's just kind of fun to fantasize about who would win in a fight. The problem is that the answer is never as fun as the fantasy. It always comes down to little details like the situation and the individuals. The idea of saying style A is better than B is better than C is appealing, but it's just not possible. Even if one style *were* better than another, you couldn't find out in the actual world.

Personally, I think it's a bit that a boxer will definitely go down from a kick, or that a uechika will definitely go down in a flurry. It's all about the scenario. You can certainly engineer a situation where either is sure to win.
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Valkenar wrote: You can certainly engineer a situation where either is sure to win.
If you fill in all the blanks you can.

Some karate-ka would take out the Boxer with low kicks. Other karate-ka's kicks would not have enough power and they would find themselves inside and helpless. It all comes down to who's doing what.

Boxing however is not a hand to hand combat style, it is a sport with a narrow focus. Boxing does not address the full standup range of combat like standup MAs do. So I don't see what the point is in making the comparison except to say if you are a karate-ka fighting a Boxer you better use your kicks to keep him out of his range..

Most people when they discuss Boxing they are going to look at what Boxers do in the range that they fight. Looking at Boxing in ranges where they don't fight is the study of a martial vacuum.
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John Giacoletti wrote:It's not that the line to test Shinjo's and Martin's kicks was short. It's that there was no line.
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