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karate belts can kill.......

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Got this from another forum.......you guys ever heard anything like this going around? 8O


What a weird story. Has this 'choking game' popped up in any of your communities?!



Quote:

Manteca death focuses attention on choking game
By M.S. Enkoji -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 3:26 pm PDT Friday, October 14, 2005


A 12-year-old Manteca boy, who tied his karate belt around his neck and hanged himself to death in his bedroom, might have been experimenting with a choking game, a dangerous fad among adolescents police said.

Manteca Police are investigating the death of the unidentifed boy who was taken to a hospital after his his grandmother found him hanging Monday.

Investigators are unconvinced the death is a suicide because there are no typical indicators, said Manteca Police Lt. Mike Cook.

"There was no family fight just before, no mental illness. There was no apparent reason for him to take his life," Cook said.

Called "pass out" or "the choking game" among other names, the object of the popular game among young teens is to cut off oxygen to the brain, producing a rush or a high, according to experts.

In recent months, the deaths of several teens who died after accidentally strangling themselves have prompted parents to talk about the dangers of prolonged oxygen deprivation to the brain.

After her 13-year-old son died choking himself in May, Sarah Pacatte of Paradise went on the talk-show circuit and created a Website where she tracks other deaths and posts warning signs for parents at www.stilllovingmygabriel.com.

Sacramento County hasn't had any similar deaths, said Sacramento County Coroner Ed Smith.

Hanging deaths among adolescents are rare, he said, maybe one a year. But the cases he's seen all clearly pointed to suicide, he said.



source: http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/...-14555203c.html
(Sacramento Ca. Newspaper)
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This is interesting.

Years ago I saw a game being played at a party:

Half a dozen or so people sitting in a circle on the floor_ each taking rapid breaths to hyperventilate, then holding the breath and 'pushing' inward and down.

Upon getting up they swayed and got a silly high.
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Why don't they just join a judo class?

A kid in my undergrad U. killed himself doing the same thing. Kind of reminds me of trepanation. I feel bad joking about these kids, but I mean seriously, what? Stop. :?
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a couple months ago a few kids played the game in a tree on their way home from school. One of those kids lost. The other kids had to explain what happened to the police and the poor kids greiving parents. This is happening all over the place. Here in Georgia. I read about one in Ohio, I think it was. Don't these kids realize they can't help themselves when they are unconscious?
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One of my students lost his nephew to this.
All "A" student as well.

Warning signs are marks on the neck and frequent headaches.
Watch you kids for these.

You wonder how kids can be so stupid, but back when I was young going 110 miles an hour in a Pontiac GTO with bad tires wasn't bright either. :roll:
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WARNING: DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS, UNLESS YOU DON'T VALUE YOUR IQ OR EVEN YOUR LIFE
Van wrote: Years ago I saw a game being played at a party:

Half a dozen or so people sitting in a circle on the floor_ each taking rapid breaths to hyperventilate, then holding the breath and 'pushing' inward and down.

Upon getting up they swayed and got a silly high.
Yep... Hyperventilation followed by Valsalva. It often will make you pass out.

What you are doing is increasing the blood gas pH (from blowing off too much CO2) and then stimulating the baroreceptors (pressure sensors) in the aortic arch and the carotid sinus. You are sending false information to the medulla

1) I am in respiratory alkalosis (true...) and

2) My pressure is way too high

The medulla responds by dropping the pressure so much that your brain temporarily is starved for oxygen. It's often referred to as a vasovagal response (vaso = vascular, vagal = main nerve of the parasympathetic nervous system). I suspect there's something else going on here that accentuates the problem with brain cells getting enough oxygen. If you get the blood pH out of kilter, your red blood cells will not release oxygen so readily. (The oxygen dissociation curve is affected by things like blood pH, 2,3, DPG, etc.)

Even more... Standing up causes teporary orthostatic hypotension. It takes a second or so for the cardiovascular system to readjust pressure and flow around the circulatory system when you go from a lie-down or seated position to full standing. I used to have problems with this one back hyperextension device where I'd have a starting position w/ head completely upside down while doing my back exercise with a 25 to 45 pound weight on my head. When I was done and stood up, I'd get the vasovagal response. These days they fix the orientation of those chairs so you don't start in a completely inverted position.

Another variation of this is to hyperventilate, and then have someone come from behind and give you a strong bear hug around the chest while you Valsalva. This increases the signal coming out of the baroreceptor in the aortic arch. KO is imminent.

Some pressure point sequences work this way, causing a vasovagal response by overstimulating sympathetic and then stimulating parasympathetic. The parasympathetic "rebound" can be pretty dramatic.

Here's another more chronic problem that happens. Whenever troops fight a battle where they endure a survival stress response for an extended period of time, there is a subsequent parasympathetic rebound that makes it impossible to wake up for a long time once you go to sleep. Napoleon was aware of this vulnerability, and learned to have fresh troops available after his initial troops fought a battle. Those not prepared for this phenomenon can be taken.

- Bill
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