Tony's Seichin - Clip

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Wed Mar 01, 2000 3:32 am

Here we go again.

The following clips were created at 160x120 from a 352x240 44 meg avi. The final asf files are MUCH smaller.

I put these clips on AOL's server. They were playing for me, much better.

Please try each one. (even the isdn)

tony's seichin - 28.8

tony's seichin - 56

tony's seichin - isdn

The following zipped file is the isdn version of the .asf file. If you unzip it and save it to your hard drive then play it from there, it will work perfectly. (no buffering pauses) The file is only 799k. Not bad considering the original version was 40 megs. The frames per second were cut in half and the size is smaller but you can get an idea of the quality I am foing for. Plus, the clips of Tony and the people he has video taped with him look pretty cool.

The ASF file zipped

Please tell me what happens and what speed mode/access you are using.

Thank You!
Scott

[This message has been edited by Scott Danziger (edited February 29, 2000).]

maurice richard libby · Wed Mar 01, 2000 8:36 pm

scott,

28.8 streamed well for me (56 k USR modem) The 56K was better quality, but buffered appreciably more. The ISDN was quite slow (but not as slow as the previous ones).

maurice

Post by **gmattson** » Wed Mar 01, 2000 10:44 pm

Worked perfect on my DSL guys.

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Thu Mar 02, 2000 1:36 am

Tony,

Sounds great. Email me the url so I can start linking when you do. Also, maybe we should put the asx's on there too. But to be honost, I doubt it will make a difference (the asx files that is.)

If they stream better, I'll then work on increasing the viewing size of the clips. I'd like to upload the above asf's to it so we have an EXACT matching file to compare.

Well it looks like we are on the right path now. I only wish you can all see the original avi files. They are HUGE but I was going for the best quality possible to work from.

Thanks all for the input - We can use more from you lurkers out there.

Scott

Jackie Olsen · Post by **Jackie Olsen** » Fri Mar 03, 2000 5:21 am

I couldn't get the 28.8 to play at all. I received info that I needed to download a "Media Player Codex 4.0" I checked my version of Media Player & I have 6.0 ... so I wasn't sure why I needed to download this.

Does the browser automatically select Real Player vs. Media Player ... or does it depend on how you create the video?

Thanks, Jackie

Jackie Olsen · Post by **Jackie Olsen** » Fri Mar 03, 2000 10:34 am

Thanks, Tony,

... I'll try that and let you know how it works.

Jackie

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Fri Mar 03, 2000 11:23 am

Jackie,

If it still wants you to download that codex file go ahead. I believe that is to be able to use media player with ASF files which is this new streaming file format we are working with.

Scott

Jackie Olsen · Post by **Jackie Olsen** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 6:23 am

Here you go ...

28.8 -- no buffer pauses, very blurry
56 -- some pauses, less blurry, slightly grainy
ISDN -- many pauses, less blurry , no grain.

zip file --- 4 min 30 sec. to download @2.96kb/sec. No pauses, clearest video

I have a pentium, 233 mghtz, (I know, a dinosaur compared to what you guys have) slow modem -- 36(?) but out here in the country, my phone line rarely transfers anything faster than 26400.

Hope this helps. Jackie

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 1:00 pm

Thank You Jackie, That is a GREAT help.

Scott

Greg · Post by **Greg** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 6:17 pm

Scott,

Using an HP w/350mhz and a 56K modem. Transfer rate was about 4.6K/sec for the zip. No problem with the 28 or 56, except the quality was not very good (I realize you are trying to find a compromise...). The ISDN paused to buffer fairly often, but the quality was better than the others (seemed equal to the zip). Certainly prefer any of the above to the 'old' way!

greg

Lori · Post by **Lori** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 6:55 pm

Hi Scott - here's my view from a celeron w/56K access:

28.8: very blurry - quick load - no buffering pauses

56: less blurry - quick load - no buffering pauses

isdn: similar quality to 56 - slower load - lots of buffering pauses

zipped file - nicest quality - but didn't seem that much better than the 56.

Hope that helps some.

Nice work! Definitely a nicer way to view these clips.

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 9:01 pm

Hi Lori,

Yes that helps immenseley. Couldn't ask for more. Except maybe more clips of you and Tony working out. I only had that one brief clip to work with. I'm really into this editing stuff. Did Tony show you the CD?

Tony,
Maybe you should do both. This way, I can dl the avi's and produce a montage clip as above, while still letting everybody quickly view your work. I would think it also depends on the length of the file.

The zipped file above is the isdn version.
We can even make cable versions that can play on your own machines. Only you'll have to download them the old fasion way but... they will be compressed to a smaller file so dl time will be much shorter. And when you view them, there will be no buffering.

Tony, maybe you should re-activate the voting booth and make a poll.

Scott

Scott Danziger · Post by **Scott Danziger** » Sat Mar 04, 2000 9:03 pm

Hi Lori,

Yes that helps immenseley. Couldn't ask for more. Except maybe more clips of you and Tony working out. I only had that one brief clip to work with. I'm really into this editing stuff. Did Tony show you the CD?

Greg,
Thanks. Big help. Now I'm also getting a feel to what everybody is using to accomadate.

Tony,
Maybe you should do both. This way, I can dl the avi's and produce a montage clip as above, while still letting everybody quickly view your work. I would think it also depends on the length of the file.

The zipped file above is the isdn version.
We can even make cable versions that can play on your own machines. Only you'll have to download them the old fasion way but... they will be compressed to a smaller file so dl time will be much shorter. And when you view them, there will be no buffering.

Tony, maybe you should re-activate the voting booth and make a poll.

Scott