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Does anyone know how to reinstall dlls. I loaded an old program that must have loaded old dll, replacing the newer ones in Win 98. Now a couple of my programs won't operate and I keep getting file error messages associated with 4 dll files:

Powrprof.dll
Lz32.dll
Awfext32.dll
and one other that I can't remember.

I've tried replacing the files with the newer versions, but the error messages continue. I've repaired the dll with file tools, but to no avail.

Any suggestions?

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A DLL is just a blob of code that does nothing except take up hard disk space yntil an app says "Hey, I want you." at which time it hops into memory for awhile.

If it has the right goesintas and the right comesoutas AND it is in the correct directory, than a DLL should just work.

How do you repair a DLL with file tools? Sounds more dangerous than mucking in the registry.

Should I dare ask what the error message says? Hope the underlying message doesn't imply that you need to reload ore repair w98.

A good approach is to locate ALL the DLLS on your computer tha go under the names of the ones you are looking for, and make sure only one per name exists, and it is in your windows folder or the folder that win 98 puts them into. On NT it is in the system32 folder.

When you find all the DLLS of the same name you have several options. You can erase all but the latest, or you can save-off all but the latest onto a floppy, and when the latest doesn't work try the others one at the time.

A DLL has to be in the path, in the same folder as the executable, or in a windows system folder.

If I was running W98, I would do a tools/search on the windows folder for all w*.dll just to see where the dll of my heart's desire SHOULD reside.



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PS, FYI, and otherwise something to be aware of: I don't know if you are fooling around with any system stuff, but if any services running make calls into your dlls, you may need to reboot after every copy. And services do make calls into dlls; all the PCI BUS drivers I've written as services call at least one interface dll.


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I did the tool/file search Alan. I have one copy of the files and what appears to be a shortcut file. I'll try to erase the shortcut and replace the window/system file with the new one.

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Looks like our bloodhound, Tony, is on the case. I suspect he knows more about specific things on your machine than I do, where I can give only basic steps to follow.

And you thought you were having trouble with dlls, George, huh? Pick up the top headline of the following link that starts with "Oops! IE5..."
http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?uechi@ici.net

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George Mattson-San,
Have you tried doing the System File Checker?
start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools
Then Tools -> System file Checker
Has worked once before for me.

Allen,
Yeah M$ sent me a warning letter regarding that.
Image You talk about a some angry redfaced IT dept Image
Cheers,
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Only one program that I need doesn't work. But when I reboot, I get the error messages.

I've fixed the files using the system file checker a couple times. Each time, the program finds and corrects problems. The only problem is, the next time I try to load my program, the errors reappear. I've deleted the dlls and copied new ones to the system directory. All to no avail.
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"When I reboot..."

Hmmm...

Right-click on the task-bar then click the tab that says "Start Menu Programs" in the Taskbar Properties sheets and fish around to see what is automatically starting up each time you reboot [This is NT; W98 may be sightly different, but if so, it is close to being the same]. If you find the culprit, in the start menu hierarchy, then delete it. You are really deleting a pointer to the program, and not the program itself.

Reboot and try it.

Alternatively, rename the DLL to something else and see if anything else uses it, like windows [dangerous]. Reboot then see what happens.

System starts up ok? Try [to run] a few apps if it does. If nothing else needs that dll. then...

Next, MOVE the DLL into the directory where the executable lives then rename it to what it should be, then reboot.

You are at the stage here you are playing games ith this thing.




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Looks like W2000 came out at a bad time for MS, Chuck. I like it, but it has a ways to go yet. I hope MS doesn't fold up and leave the country before it's fixed. Bill Gates already considered India, and now, one of the middle-eastern desert countries is looking to for some battered rams so they can get into the techno-age.

Will GEM's face turn crimson the next time someone nearby wispers "DLL". He must be getting pretty good at loading operating systems by now, and I'll bet he even dreams about it....

Last resort is to reload the os, but is the only option when everything else fails.

An easier question could be to ask which programs aren't responding. If not system stuff, or things like "word", etc., then a registry cleaning and reloading of the specific software could do the job.

But what happens when you do everything right, and it still doesn't work? Maybe killing the os and start from scratch in the beginning can be the least painful way.



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Hello Anthony.

Sure there is a way to prevent one DLL from overwriting another DLL, but the stuff that checks for dates is both 1) Often wrong 2) Never protects you from yourself.

Been writing them for years. DLLs can be fun things -- if written properly, that is. Think of a DLL as part of a simple LEGO set; DLLs are merely interchangeable building blocks, but easier to use and replace. The real beauty of DLLs is that you can pull one out and replace it with another; no muss, no fuss (eh, eh).

The terror of DLLS is that they can be likened to a pile of neatly stacked oranges at an outdoor vegetable market. Enter someone who pulls one from the bottom, and the whole pyramid comes tumbling down.

Technically, they should be independent functional entities of applications, and one DLL may serve many applications. This feature saves both memory required because they get kicked out when someone else needs the space, and they require less hard drive space to keep around because less is needed.

DLL management is an art unto itself. 3,634 DLLs on my system. Just counted them: one, two, three…. I let them live in peace in harmony, yes-in-dee-dee. I don't muck with them, no sir-ree.

If you just use them, think of them as your friend. Mess with them and think of them as your enemy, and you’d better know your enemy well else it is certain defeat.

Done!


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I went to the "Gator" site and tried to download the program again. I got another error message, this time "Setupapi.dll" unable to load!

I wrote to their tech people, explaining the problem. They said the dll in question were related to Microsoft Explorer.

Sure enough, I tried to do a 'repair' on Explorer and got a message "unrepairable"- please reinstall!

I've been trying to uninstall internet explorer for a couple hours (vs 5.5) unsuccessfully. Anyone know how to do this?

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Good day for playing golf, George. Do you have flourescent balls?

You probably have already tried to reload a version of IE over the ailing one. How close are you to reloading Windows 98?

Anthony, I do it by making a DLL directory as doon as I install the os, then from time-to-time update it.

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Mattson-san
Here is what M$ knowledge base turned.
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q192/8/52.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB&FR=0
That's a manual uninstall by hand
sound like fun Image
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/3/44.ASP?LNG=ENG&SA=ALLKB&FR=0

That's the automatic? unistall
Here is the results for the search:
Uninstall IE 5.5
Cheers,
Chuck

[This message has been edited by Dakkon (edited March 17, 2000).]
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Looks like it stopped snowing.

Call Netscape for information on how to get rid of IE.

I'm home now and will see how badly I can mess up my son's computer by attemptng to remove I.E. I hope it's not built into W98.

Whenever I want to remove IE, I go to the folder that it's in and delete it. Have you been in the registry to look for remining traces of IE?



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