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Van Canna
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Panther,

What’s the status on the Ale Costerus v. the town of Concord case?

The man had a valid FID card when he moved back to Mass., owned firearms, did not have any on him when he stopped by the police station to inquire about new licensing laws regarding handguns, and he was promptly arrested.

What gives? What right did the police have to arrest him?

Does senate bill 1178 [eliminate the discretionary role of the police chiefs in issuing a license to carry firearms] have any real chance at passing?




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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Van Canna:
Panther,

What’s the status on the Ale Costerus v. the town of Concord case?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Canna-sensei (and anyone else who can get outraged at a lawful citizen being abused by the system),

This is truly a case of an innocent person getting caught in what the true intentions of Chapter 180 are! I've met Alec a few times. He's a great person. I found it hard to sit quietly in the studio and let him tell his story when he was on the radio show.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The man had a valid FID card when he moved back to Mass., owned firearms, did not have any on him when he stopped by the police station to inquire about new licensing laws regarding handguns, and he was promptly arrested.

What gives? What right did the police have to arrest him?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Basically, it was a complete abuse of power and a violation of his Rights under color of law! They had NO right to arrest him. In fact, he has been acquited of all the original charges at considerable personal expense. (Folks, if you think all you have to do is take a day off of work and show up to get justice, think again. I know of a number of cases, in Massachusetts, where the legal expenses, to combat the same type of facist police tactics that Alec went though, cost from $17k to $30k+!!!) In fact, the judge ordered the Chief to issue Alec his license... an order which, to date, has still not been followed! (And some people actually believe that only cops should have guns! Image ) For those that don't know, not only was Alec arrested without probable cause at the police station, but while he was there to obtain the necessary licenses which he was well within the grace period for getting as a new resident of Massachusetts (had just moved back), the police (unbeknownst to him) sent officers to his house, scaring the heck out of his wife and conducting an illegal and warrantless search to find his (still perfectly legal at the time) firearms. (Which included two competition handguns and a competition rifle! Alec is a certified instructor and competitor!) Now Alec is fighting back, suing for violation of his 2nd, 5th, and 14th Amendment Rights...
http://www.massnews.com/601gun.htm

Read carefully, there's a place where you can send donations to this family man's legal defense fund.

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Does senate bill 1178 {eliminate the discretionary role of the police chiefs in issuing a license to carry firearms} have any real chance at passing?
Yes, it would help... I wish I could have a positive outlook on it passing, but... Image

@#$*^#$)@#^**#*&&#RG#@R^%*!!!!! Image


[This message has been edited by Panther (edited June 07, 2001).]
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